2011 FORD FIESTA Power Train Problems

WHILE DRIVING, VEHICLE SHUDDERS AND HESITATES WHEN ACCELERATING. LURCHES FORWARD AT TIMES WHEN STOPPED. BUCKS WHILE SHIFTING (TRANSMISSION IS THEIR POWERSHIFT AUTOMATIC). ONE TIME THE TRANSMISSION COMPLETELY DISENGAGED WHILE DRIVING ON THE PARKWAY DURING A SNOWSTORM, LEAVING IN A VERY DANGEROUS POSITION. HAD TO TURN THE CAR OFF AND ON SEVERAL TIMES TO GET TRANSMISSION TO "RESET". AT TIMES, WHEN RELEASING BRAKE FROM STATIONARY POSITION, CAR WOULD SHUDDER EVEN BEFORE APPLYING THE THROTTLE. TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE HAS BEEN CHANGED OUT TWICE IN THE LAST 15 MONTHS OF PURCHASING THE CAR FROM THE DEALER AS "CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED". LAST TCM CHANGE, THE CAR HAD SAME ISSUES AS SOON AS I LEFT SERVICE DEPARTMENT. CALLED SERVICE ADVISER AS SOON AS I GOT HOME AND HE SAID I HAD TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE 1000-12000 MILES FOR THE TRANSMISSION TO "GET USED TO THE WAY I DRIVE". NEEDLESS TO SAY, AFTER 2000 MILES, THERE HAS...

TRANSMISSION STUDDERS AND HESITATES IN LOWER GEARS WHEN TURNING OR PULLING UP TO PARKING AREA SLOWLY. TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN SERVICED BY FORD 3 TIMES BUT WE ARE NOW WAITING 8-12 WEEKS FOR ANOTHER SET OF CLUTCHES MEAN WHILE IT IS GETTING WORSE TO DRIVE.

ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS THE VEHICLE HAS EXPERIENCED DECREASED ACCELERATION AS WELL AS DELAYED ACCELERATION. SINCE JUNE OF 2011 TO JANUARY 2016 I HAVE HAD THE CLUTCH REPLACED 8 OR 9 TIMES WITH THE POWER TRAIN MODULE BEING REPROGRAMMED. THE PROBLEM STILL PERSISTS. NOW JAN. 18TH 2016 THE CAR IS EXPERIENCING A TRANSMISSION MALFUNCTION. IT WILL NOT ACCELERATE OVER 10 MILES AN HOUR. RENDERING THE VEHICLE UNDRIVABLE. I CAN'T SEEM TO GET HELP FROM FORD OR SUNSTATE FORD IN WHICH THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED. EVERYTIME THEY SERVICE THE VEHICLE THEY STATE SHUDDERING AND THE ACCELERATION ISSUES ARE NORMAL FUNCTIONS OF THE VEHICLE. HOWEVER EACH TIME THEY HAVE REPLACE THE CLUTCH OR REPROGRAMMED COMPUTERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRANSMISSION. AT THE INTERSECTION OF 441 AND DAVID WALKER DR IN EUSTIS FL WE EXPERIENCED THE TRANSMISSION MALFUNCTION LEAVING US IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC TRYING TO MANUEVER AT 10 MILES AN HOUR.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE AT A STOP LIGHT, THE VEHICLE SHOOK AND SPUTTERED. THE CONTACT ALSO INDICATED THAT THE VEHICLE HESITATED TO ACCELERATE AND STALLED INTERMITTENTLY ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TRANSMISSION WAS FAILED AND THE CLUTCH ASSEMBLY NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 50,000. UPDATED 03/11/16*LJ *CN

CAR AT RANDOM TIMES REFUSES TO GO INTO ANY GEAR. THIS IS THE DUAL CLUTCH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. MOST OFTEN HAPPENS AFTER STARTING THE CAR WHEN THE SHIFT LEVER IS MOVED INTO A GEAR THE TRANSMISSION REMAINS IN NETURAL. YOU CAN OVER REVE THE ENGINE NO FOOT ON THE BRAKE NO GEAR ENGAGES. A FEW TIME WHILE DRIVING THE TRANSMISSIONS GOES INTO NETURAL. SO FAR I'VE BEEN ABLE TO COAST OFF OF THE LIMITED ACCESS ROAD ONTO A SIDE STREET WHEN THAT HAS HAPPENED. A FEW TIMES THE CAR HAS REFUSED TO GO BACK INTO GEAR AFTER COMING TO A STOP AT A STOP SIGN OR STOP LIGHT. YOU CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUE BY TURNING OFF THE CAR AND RESTARTING IT. SOMETIMES IT TAKES MULTIPLE RESTARTS BEFORE YOU CAN GET THE TRANSMISSION TO SHIFT OUT OF NETURAL. A FEW TIMES THE CAR HAS REFUSED TO START, I THINK THE TCU REFUSES...

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE TRANSMISSION FAILED CAUSING THE VEHICLE TO JERK VIOLENTLY AND LOSE ACCELERATION POWER, WHILE DRIVING. THE BRAKE PEDAL HAD TO BE ENGAGED WITH FORCE TO BE ABLE TO STOP THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE AND THE POWER TRAIN CONTROL MODULE WERE UPDATED AND THE POWER TRAIN CLUTCH ASSEMBLY WAS REPLACED. HOWEVER, THE FAILURE WAS NOT CORRECTED. THE VEHICLE CONTINUED TO JERK AND LOSE ACCELERATION POWER WHILE DRIVING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE DEALER FOR FURTHER INSPECTION. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 5,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT 30 MPH, THE VEHICLE SHUTTERS AND HESITATES AS IF IT WERE TO STALL WHILE THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS BEING DEPRESSED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TCM MODULE FAILED AND NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 1,600.

SINCE NEW THE CAR'S TRANSMISSION HAS HAD LURCHING AND JERKING ISSUES WHEN SHIFTING THAT HAVE PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN WORSE. MULTIPLE TIMES THE CAR HAS LURCHED AND STALLED MISSING THE NEXT GEAR AND ALMOST CAUSED US TO GET SIDE SWIPED WHILE MAKING A TURN. WE WERE LEFT STRANDED AND HAD TO REPLACE THE CONTROL MODULE WHICH FORD EVENTUALLY PAID FOR. NOW AFTER GETTING A TRANS MALFUNCTION WARNING THE FORD DEALER IS SAYING WE NEED A NEW CLUTCH (THE CAR IS AN AUTOMATIC...THAT IS WHAT WE PAID FOR). THE CLUTCH HAS ONLY WORN OUT BECAUSE OF THE EXCESSIVE LURCHING AND MISSING GEARS CAUSE BY THE POOR DESIGN DESPITE SEVERAL FAILED ATTEMPTS TO HAVE THE ISSUE FIXED BY THE DEALER. NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCELERATE WHEN MAKING A LEFT TURN OR PULLING ONTO A ROADWAY OR MERGING ONTO A HIGHWAY IS A SAFETY ISSUE. PLEASE HOLD FORD ACCOUNTABLE. I DON'T THINK THE CAR IS...

CLUTCH SHUDDER. AFTER HAVING A REPLACEMENT CLUTCH ASSEMBLY INSTALLED 12,000 MILES AGO, THE CLUTCH SHUDDER, SHAKING, DELAYED ACCELERATION, AND JERKINESS HAVE RETURNED. ASSEMBLY WAS REINSPECTED AT DEALERSHIP, CONFIRMING THAT THE REPLACEMENT CLUTCH ASSEMBLY ALSO HAS THE FAILURE SYMPTOMS. A NEW ASSEMBLY IS BEING ORDERED

TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE RECALL: AFTER HAVING THE "TCM" SOFTWARE UPDATED IN SEPTEMBER, THE TRANSMISSION MALFUNCTION LIGHT STILL COMES ON WHEN MY CAR WILL NOT SWITCH GEARS. ONE DAY DRIVING DOWN THE INTERSTATE, MY CAR WAS GOING 65 MPH AND WAS NOT SWITCHING GEARS. AFTER HAVING IT TOWED TO THE NEAREST FORD DEALERSHIP, MY CAR WAS WORKED ON AND THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE WAS FINALLY REPLACED. LESS THAN A WEEK LATER, MY CAR WOULD NOT ACCELERATE OR SWITCH GEARS WHILE DRIVING UP A HILL. MY CAR BEGAN TO MOVE BACKWARDS SINCE IT WOULD NOT ACCELERATE. MY CAR WAS ROLLING BACKWARDS DOWN A HILL INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC. THE FORD DEALERSHIP DOES NOT SEEM TO BE CONCERNED AND ASSURED ME THE SOFTWARE NEEDED TO BE UPDATED AGAIN AFTER IT WAS UPDATED LESS THAN A WEEK AGO. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I FIND TO BE DANGEROUS IF THE CAR WILL NOT SWITCH GEARS. THE...

VEHICLE WONT GO INTO GEAR. ENGINE STARTS FINE, BUT TRANSMISSION WILL NOT ENGAGE. BACKED OUT OF GARAGE, PUT CAR INTO DRIVE, AND NOTHING. CAR WILL NOT ENGAGE IN R OR D. HAD IT TOWED TO DEALER. TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE REPLACED BUT CAR STILL NOT RUNNING CORRECTLY, PER DEALER. DEALER SAYS CAR NEEDS A NEW TRANSMISSION. FORD SAYS I'M 1450 MILES AND 60 DAYS OVER THE 60K/5 YR WARRANTY SO NO ASSISTANCE WITH PAYING FOR REPAIRS. I'VE SEEM NO INDICATION FROM ALL THESE POSTS THAT A TRANSMISSION REPLACEMENT HAS FIXED THE VEHICLE.

THE AUTOMATIC FORD FIESTA EXPERIENCES A VERY LOUD GRINDING/SCRAPING NOISE AS SOON AS IT STARTS COASTING (AS SOON AS THE FOOT IS OFF THE ACCELERATOR), REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE BREAK PEDAL IS APPLIED OR NOT. THIS HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF THE SPEED AT WHICH IT IS TRAVELLING. INITIALLY TOOK THE CAR TO A REPUTABLE MECHANIC WHO INDICATED THE NOISE WAS COMING FROM THE TRANSMISSION AND RECOMMENDED I GO TO THE DEALER SINCE THE ISSUE MIGHT BE COVERED UNDER THE CAR'S WARRANTY. THE FIRST TRIP TO THE DEALER FOR THE NOISE RESULTED IN A REPLACEMENT OF THE DUAL CLUTCH. THE SECOND TRIP TO THE DEALER FOR THE NOISE RESULTED IN A REPROGRAMMING OF THE PCM/TCM MODULE. THE THIRD TRIP TO THE DEALER FOR THE NOISE RESULTED IN BEING TOLD THIS IS "NORMAL". THE NOISE ABATED AFTER THE DUAL CLUTCH REPLACEMENT AND REPROGRAMMING OF MODULES, BUT QUICKLY RETURNED (WITHIN DAYS) AND GREW LOUDER...

2011 FORD FIESTA AKA BLACK TURD OF DEATH. 5 TIMES IN THE DEALER FOR TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS. BAD SHUTTERING ON TAKE OFF. STARTED AT 18,253 MILES AND NOW AT 45,015 STILL DOES IT. WORSE WHEN TURNING CAUSE IT WILL TRY AND STALL OUT. GAS PEDAL IS NOT RESPONSIVE WHEN THIS HAPPENS. CONTACTED FORD AND WAS TOLD BY THE DEALER THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE COULD BE DONE. THAT I NEED TO GET USED TO IT. THE CLUTCH HAS BEEN REPLACED DIDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE. TRANSMISSION HAS BEEN FLASHED 5 TIMES. BUT NEVER TEST DRIVEN AFTERWARD. JUST TOLD IT WAS NORMAL. UNIVERSITY FORD WILL NOT EVEN GIVE ME COPIES OF MY PAPERWORK. SAID IT WAS IN THE MAIL.

CLUTCH SHUTTERING, ACCELERATION / STOPPING,

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE REVERSING, THERE WAS AN ABNORMAL NOISE COMING FROM THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE STEERING GEAR FAILED BUT THE VEHICLE WAS DRIVABLE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE RECURRED. IN ADDITION, THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 15V246000 (LATCHES/LOCKS/LINKAGES) HOWEVER, THE PART TO DO THE REPAIR WAS UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE MANUFACTURER NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 31,800. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE. UPDATE 01/15/16 MA UPDATED 2/4/16 *CN THE CONSUMER STATES THE TRANSMISSION WILL NOT GO FORWARD OR REVERSE. *TR

THE TRANSMISSION EXPERIENCES EXCESSIVE SHUDDERING AND JERKING WITH ACCELERATION, SEVERE RATTLING AND GRINDING NOISES, TO COMPLETE LOSS OF RESPONSE WITH THE ACCELERATOR. THIS IS EVERY TIME IT IS DRIVEN. IT HAS SUPPOSEDLY BEEN REPAIRED ON FORD 5 TIMES NOW, HOWEVER THIS TIME THEY WILL NOT COVER IT. THIS IS A DANGER TO MYSELF, MY FAMILY AND ANYONE ELSE ON THE ROAD WHEN YOU CAN NOT CONTROL ACCELERATION/DECELERATION. THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING SINCE 11/2014.

THIS IS AN UPDATE TO A PREVIOUS COMPLAINT WITH MY CAR. PREVIOUSLY THE CAR GAVE OUT IN THE HILLS OF A SF. THE CAR SAID IT HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE TRANSMISSION AND WOULD NOT GIVE ANY PROPULSION RISKING GOING BACKWARD ON A HILL. THE DEALER UPDATED THE SOFTWARE. THEY SAID THIS WAS THE FIX. THEY SAID AFTER 1000 MILES IT SHOULD FIX ITSELF. SINCE THEN THE CAR HAS BEEN RUNNING MUCH MORE SLUGGISH. IT FORCES ITSELF ON ACCELERATING. IT JERKS MUCH MORE EXCESSIVELY WHEN I TAKE OFF THE GAS. IT JERKS MUCH MORE WHEN I BRAKE AND I HEAR THE METAL GRINDING AND CLANKING TOGETHER. IT WAS A REALLY BAD SOFTWARE UPDATE. 1000 PASSED AND WE RAN INTO ANOTHER PROBLEM. I HAD THE CAR PARKED IN THE HOUSE. TRIED TO TURN CAR BACK ON AND WOULD NOT TURN ON. I HEARD CLICKING NOISE AS IF THE BATTERY WAS DEAD....

GOT MY CAR NEW 2012 IT IS A 2011 HAD SERVICE WORK MOSTLY OIL CHANGE TIRE ROTATION ECT IN 12-31-14 HAD TO TAKE IT IN SOUNDED LIKE IT WAS FLYING APART WHEN YOU DRIVE JERKED WHEN YOU TRIED TO TAKE OFF FELT LIKE YOU WERE DRIVING ON ROCKY ROAD SPEED BUMPS THEY INSTALLED SEALS FOR LEAK CLEAN CLUTCH AND PERF TEST DRIVE UPLOAD SHUDDER TO HOTLINE FOR CLUTCH APPV INSTALLED NEW CLUTCH AND SEALS/REPRO PCM/TCM AND PERF TRANS ADAPTIVE RELEARN PERF TEST DRIVE VEC HOTLINE APPV PAAXR THIS DONE OK FOR A BIT TOOK BACK IN OCT 2015 SAME PROBLEM JERKING AND SOUNDS LIKE IT FALLING APART ALSO HAD RECALL ON DOOR LOCK WENT BACK TO GET IT I AM VERY UNHAPPY WITH CAR STILL HAVE THE PROBLEM THEY HAVE TO ORDER PARTS AS OF TODAY NOV 6 2015 HAD TO BE TOWED WONT EVEN CRANK AND WONT COME OUT...

AFTER PURCHASING THIS VEHICLE IN 2012, I EXPERIENCED SHAKING WHILE SHIFTING, SHUTTERING NOISES AND IDLING IN LOW GEARS. SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER PURCHASE, I CONTACTED THE DEALERSHIP AND I WAS TOLD THAT OIL WAS LEAKING ONTO MY CLUTCH. COVERED UNDER WARRANTY, THEY REPLACED THE FLEXPLATE AND SEALS AND REINSTALLED THE TRANSMISSION. I CONTINUED TO EXPERIENCE SHUTTERING, SHAKING AND TROUBLESOME SHIFTING BUT WAS REASSURED BY THE DEALERSHIP THAT THIS EXPERIENCE WAS NORMAL FOR THIS VEHICLE AND ITS TRANSMISSION AND I NEED NOT BE CONCERNED. THIS WEEK, WHILE USING CRUISE CONTROL AT ABOUT 60 MPH ON A BUSY HIGHWAY DURING RUSH HOUR, I HEARD WHAT SOUNDED LIKE METAL PARTS BREAKING UNDER MY LEFT FOOT FOLLOWING BY GRINDING NOISES. I PULLED THE CAR TO THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY SAFELY BUT HAD TO APPLY THE E-BRAKE BECAUSE THE CAR ROLLED FORWARD IN PARK AND REFUSED TO ACCELERATE IN DRIVE. I ALSO SAW MESSAGES ON...

IN NOVEMBER OF 2014 I RECEIVED MY RECALL NOTICE ON MY 2011 FORD FIESTA ABOUT A 'SHUTTERING' ISSUE WITHIN THE MOTOR/TRANSMISSION. SINCE THIS TIME, MY CAR HAS GONE BACK EVERY 3 MONTHS TO HAVE THE SAME ISSUE REPAIRED. THIS WILL BE TRANSMISSION NUMBER 4 WITHIN 1 YEAR. I WAS ALREADY TOLD BY THE DEALERSHIP THAT MY CAR CANNOT BE REPAIRED. FORD CANNOT FIX THE ISSUE. THE DEALERSHIP HAS BEEN GREAT, THEY HAVE BEEN HONEST WITH ME FROM THE START. THEY HAVE ADVISED THAT THEY WILL CONTINUE TO TRY AND FIX THE CAR UNDER WARRANTY UNTIL IT RUNS OUT. THE 2012 FIESTAS DO NOT HAVE THE SAME MOTOR OR TRANSMISSION THUS, THE ISSUE IS FIXED. I CALLED MY FINANCE COMPANY AND ASKED THEM IF I CAN RETURN THE CAR SINCE THE CAR CANNOT BE REPAIRED. I WAS ADVISED I HAD TO GO THROUGH FORD AND HAVE THEM START THE PAPERWORK. I...

MY CAR HAS BEEN INTO THE DEALER MULTIPLE TIMES REGARDING THE TRANSMISSION SHUDDER. MOST RECENTLY WHEN I RECEIVED IT BACK FROM THE DEALER THE CAR CAME OUT OF GEAR AT 40MPH ALMOST CAUSING A WRECK. I TOOK IT BACK TO THE DEALER. THEY SAID IT'S SOMETHING INTERNAL WITH THE TRANSMISSION BUT THEY REFUSE TO FIX IT. NOW IT DOESN'T WANT TO COME TO A STOP. IT FEELS LIKE IT IS SEARCHING FOR A GEAR THE ENTIRE TIME YOU ARE DRIVING IT. I AM SCARED TO DRIVE THIS CAR.

LOUD NOISE AND CAR SEEMED TO BE DRAGGING AND GRINDING.. LIKE WHEELS WOULDN'T TURN WHEN I HAD DRIVEN 3 MILES ON A REGULAR STREETT DOING 45 MPH .TOWED TO DEALER....DEALER SAID IT WAS THE TRANSMISSION, THEY REPLACED IT ON THUR OCT 22, ON TUES OCTOBER 27, IT WENT OUT AGAIN AS I WAS DRIVING HOME, SAME NOISES AND COMPLAINT.. IT ONLY HAD 45 MILES ON IT SINCE THE NEW TRANSMISSION WAS PUT IN 5 DAYS PREVIOUSLY.THEY AREN'T SURE WHATS WRONG..SCARED TO DRIVE THE CAR..IM 65 YEARS OLD,

THE TRANSMISSION IN MY FIESTA HAS HAD THE SAME ISSUE FOR MANY MONTHS. SLUGGISH ON ACCELERATION, JERKING MOTIONS WHILE CORNERING, ROUGH SHIFTING, DISENGAGEMENT AND GRINDING NOISES FROM THE ASSEMBLY. I HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE DEALER NUMEROUS TIMES TO BE LOOKED AT. ON SOME OCCASIONS THEY HAVE PERFORMED PARTS REPLACEMENTS, OTHER TIMES THEY HAVE REPROGRAMMED THE CPU. IN EVERY CASE THE PROBLEM PERSISTS. THERE ARE INSTANCES WHEN THE DEALER CAN REPLICATE THE PROBLEM AND OTHERS WHERE THEY CANNOT. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT DRIVING THIS VEHICLE AS THE POWERTRAIN IS UNSTABLE. THE VEHICLE CURRENTLY HAS 60,000 MILES ON THE ODOMETER AND IS 5 YEARS OLD. THE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN OCCURRING FOR SEVERAL YEARS. THE DATE REFERENCED BELOW IS THE LAST DATE THE PROBLEM OCCURRED.

THE TRANSMISSION IS VERY SLUGGISH BETWEEN SHIFTS OF FIRST AND SECOND GEAR. THE CAR ALSO DOESN'T ALWAYS DOWNSHIFT WHEN THE BRAKES ARE APPLIED. HAD A RECALL NOTICE FROM FORD FOR A SOFTWARE UPDATE TO THE TCM. TOOK IN FOR SERVICE. NO CHANGE. DEALER SAYS IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT TRANSMISSIONS WORKS. CURRENT SITUATION IS DANGEROUS.

CURRENTLY DRIVING MY CAR WITH A BAD CLUTCH ASSEMBLY BECAUSE THE PART IS ON BACK ORDER BECAUSE OF A CUSTOMER SATISFACTION BULLETIN FROM FORD MOTOR COMPANY. DRIVING TODAY AND THE VEHICLE IN FRONT OF ME CAME TO AN ABRUPT STOP. I CAME WITHIN AN INCH OF REAR ENDING THE VEHICLE BECAUSE WHEN I PUT MY BRAKES ON MY CARS THE CLUTCH WOULD NOT DO DOWNSHIFT TO STOP MY CAR. HAD TO STEER TO THE RIGHT ONTO CURB TO AVOID HITTING THE CAR IN FRONT OF ME, CAME WITHIN AN INCH OF HITTING THE CAR. THE DEALER SERVICE DEPARTMENT TOLD ME PUTTING IN A NEW CLUTCH WILL NOT FIX THE PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY ARE PUTTING IN THE SAME DEFECTIVE PART. THIS IS MY SECOND CLUTCH ASSEMBLY WITHIN 7,000 MILES.

I BOUGHT A USED 2011 FORD FIESTA IN DECEMBER OF 2014. WITHIN A COUPLE OF WEEKS I BEGAN TO EXPERIENCE EXCESSIVE SHUDDERING, KNOCKING, BANGING NOISES. EXCESSIVE SHAKING, STUTTERING. I HAVE TAKEN IT TO MY FORD SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND ALL THEY SAID IS FORD WONT DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE CAR BREAKS DOWN OR FAILS TO MOVE AT ALL. AND WHEN THAT DOES HAPPEN, ALL CORPORATE FORD WILL DO IS REPLACE THE CLUTCH AND THEY EVEN SAID THAT WONT BE A LONG-TERM FIX BECAUSE IT WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN.. I AM REALLY FEARFUL OF GETTING INTO A SERIOUS ACCIDENT WITH THIS LEMON... I AM HOPING BUT NOT HOLDING MY BREATH ON FORD TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS.. UNTIL THE NHTSA MAKES THEM DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

CAR WILL NOT START. PUSH START BUTTON MAKES THE CAR DO A FAST CLICKING NOISE. THE CAR WILL NOT START EVEN FROM A JUMP. UPON TAKING THE VEHICLE TO THE AUTO SHOP DISCOVERED A BAD TRANSMISSION MODULE RESULTING FROM OVERHEATING/LOSS OF FLUID. MODULE REPLACED BY FORD. THREE WEEKS LATER SAME PROBLEM.

AFTER BEING IN PARK AT A GAS STATION, I GO INTO DRIVE AND START TO GO WHEN THE CARS SHUDDERS, SCREECHES, HALTS, AND THEN LOSES POWER. I WAS ABLE TO START THE CAR AGAIN, BUT WHEN I PRESSED THE GAS THERE IS NO POWER. I TRY TO PUT THE CAR IN PARK, AND THOUGH THE GEAR IS IN PARK AN ALERT COMES UP TELLING ME TO PUT THE CAR IN PARK. CAR WILL NOT GO INTO PARK. KEEPS ROLLING. HAVE TO USE MY EMERGENCY BREAK TO STOP THE CAR. PAID OUT OF POCKET TO HAVE THE CAR TOWED TO THE NEAREST FORD DEALERSHIP. THEY SAID THEY WERE "PRETTY SURE" IT WAS THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE. 5 DAYS AFTER BRING IT TO THEM I CALL AND FIND OUT THAT THEY HAVE REPROGRAMMED THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE AND SOMETHING WITH THE CLUTCH. THE PROBLEM IS STILL NOT FIXED. I HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN...

WHILE DRIVING FROM DENVER TO LONGMONT CO (8/14/15) ON HWY 76 THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT RESPOND WHEN I NEEDED TO ACCELERATE THEN THE ENGINE CUT OFF. I WAS ABLE TO RESTART AND PUT IN NEUTRAL TO NAVIGATE TRAFFIC TO GET TO SIDE OF THE ROAD. THE CAR DIED. IT COULD NOT BE RESTARTED. WHILE WAITING FOR TOW TRUCK I WAS ABLE TO START CAR AGAIN AND TRIED TO DRIVE, IT WOULD NOT RESPOND TO ACCELERATOR AND THEN DIED. CAR WAS TOWED TO LONGMONT REPAIR SHOP. THE MECHANIC THERE REACHED OUT TO FORD AND WAS TOLD THEY WERE AWARE OF THOSE ISSUES BUT PART WAS ON 6 MONTH BACKORDER. CAR WAS THEN PICKED UP BY FORD OF LONGMONT. THEY SAID THAT IT WASN'T THE TCM AND REPLACED 3 SMALLER PARTS. SIX DAYS LATER I WAS DRIVING ON DIAGONAL HIGHWAY IN BOULDER CO AND THE CAR REFUSED TO ACCELERATE AND THE DIED....

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 20 MPH, THE POWER TRAIN HESITATED INTERMITTENTLY WITHOUT WARNING. THE FAILURE RECURRED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE VEHICLE WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TSM NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE DEALER STATED THAT THE VEHICLE COULD NOT BE REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 15,000.

IN FEB. OF 2015 I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM FORD MOTOR CO. ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE. THE "NOTICE" SAID MY CAR MAY EXPERIENCE INTERMITTENT SYMPTOMS OF LOSE OF POWER WHILE DRIVING,NO-START,OR A LACK OF POWER, AMONG A FEW OTHER THINGS. WHEN I CALLED A FORD DEALER...I WAS BASICALLY TREATED LIKE A STUPID OLD WOMAN AND WHEN I ASK WHAT I SHOULD DO, I WAS TOLD DRIVE IT UNTIL IT HAPPENS!. WELL, IT HAPPENED! 5 MONTHS LATER MY CAR STALLED, THE MOTOR KEPT RUNNING, THE CAR JUST WOULD NOT GO, I WAS LUCKY I HAD TIME TO GET TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD BEFORE I WAS REAR-ENDED. FORD DID "FIX" MY CAR. TODAY, 3 MONTHS LATER, MY CAR STALLED ON A VERY BUSY HIGH, 18 WHEELER RIGHT BEHIND ME AND ONCE AGAIN I WAS ABLE TO QUICKLY TURN INTO A PARKING LOT. NOW THEY HAVE MY CAR AND IT...

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. WHILE ATTEMPTING TO ACCELERATE, THE VEHICLE MADE A JERKING MOTION AND HESITATED TO ACCELERATE. THE FAILURE RECURRED MULTIPLE TIMES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING. THE TECHNICIAN DIAGNOSED THAT THE CLUTCH NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED; HOWEVER, THE FAILURE RECURRED AND THE CLUTCH HAD TO BE REPLACED AGAIN. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 27,000.

ISSUES WITH CAR WEAK PERFORMANCE, CAR SHUDDERING, GRINDING NOISES IN ENGINE, STALLING WHEN BRAKE IS PRESSED WHILE IN DRIVE GEAR, CAR LUNGING FORWARD AND NOT WANTING TO ENGAGE, NOT WANTING TO GO AFTER A COMPLETE STOP, NOT ENGAGING IN REVERSE, AND ENGINE LIGHT COMING ON RANDOMLY. ALMOST REAR ENDED BY A CAR BEHIND ME CAME TO A SCREECHING STOP BECAUSE OF THE HESITATION TO ENGAGE IN FIRST GEAR. TOOK THE CAR TO A FORD DEALER AND WAS TOLD THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PAY A DIAGNOSIS FEE. BECAUSE IF IT DID NOT TEST AT A CERTAIN LEVEL OF PERFORMANCE THE DEALER WOULD NOT PAY FOR THE TESTING OR REPAIR. I STATED I HAD A CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM 12MO1 LETTER FOR THE CLUTCH ASSEMBLY AND THEY SAID IT DID NOT MATTER. I LEFT THE DEALER VERY UPSET AND DISSATISFIED. DROVE THE CAR AND THE SYMPTOMS WORSENED. I GOT INTO MY CAR...

THE CAR JERKS AND ACT LIKE IT WANTS TO STALL OUT. THE VEHICLE IS AN AUTOMATIC.

DRIVING ON INTERSTATE 75 IN THE MIDDLE LANE AT 70 MPH MY TCM MALFUNCTIONED, I KNEW THIS BECAUSE OF THE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM 14M02 THAT I RECEIVED IN FEBRUARY 2015. MY CAR ABRUPTLY HAD NO POWER. I FEARED FOR MY LIFE BECAUSE I HAD SEMI TRUCKS AND VEHICLES COMING UP BEHIND ME AT VERY HIGH SPEED AND I HAD NO POWER TO MY VEHICLE. I HAD TO COAST OVER ONE LANE AS SAFELY AS POSSIBLE TO THE SHOULDER TO SAFETY. I AM VERY THANKFUL ME OR MY FAMILY WAS NOT IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT. THE PARK AND DRIVE SYMBOLS ON THE DASH WERE FLASHING BETWEEN P AND D AND THE ENGINE LIGHT KEPT FLASHING. I TURNED OFF MY CAR AND CALLED MY BROTHER. HE SAID TO SEE IF IT STARTS. IT DID AFTER SEVERAL TRIES. I THEN TURNED ON MY HAZARDS AND DROVE TO THE NEXT EXIT WHICH WAS WITHIN...

I WAS DRIVING MY VEHICLE AND THE ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AS DID THE WRENCH ICON SIGNIFYING A NEED OF IMMEDIATE REPAIR. THE CAR KEPT DRIVING, BUT I HAD TO SLOW DOWN FOR TRAFFIC. WHEN I TRIED TO ACCELERATE AGAIN, MY CAR HAD LITTLE POWER. I PRESSED THE GAS PEDAL FURTHER AND THE CAR JERKED FORWARD, THEN SLOWED ITSELF DOWN IMMEDIATELY AND BUCKED ON ME A FEW TIMES. I WAS IN TRAFFIC AND IT CAUSED ME TO ALMOST GET REAR ENDED TWICE AS IT WOULD ABRUPTLY STOP. THE ENGINE RAN, I COULD DRIVE, BUT IT WOULDN'T LET ME GO VERY FAST AND KEPT SWITCHING GEARS ON ME. I TOOK IT TO THE SHOP, AND THEY SAID IT WAS A LOGIC ISSUE BUT COULD BE A FURTHER TRANSMISSION ISSUE AND I SHOULD DRIVE IT UNTIL SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS. THEY ALSO PROMISED ME THAT THE LOGIC WAS FIXED AND NOTHING LIKE THAT...

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. WHILE DRIVING AT 50 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED. THE CONTACT WAS ABLE TO RESTART THE VEHICLE. THE ENGINE WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED AND SERVICE ENGINE, TRANSMISSION SOON WAS DISPLAYED ACROSS THE MESSAGE BOARD. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER WHO WAS UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE OR REPAIR THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE RECURRED ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE VIN WAS INVALID. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 6,000. MA 10/6 THE DEALER REPROGRAMMED THE TRANSMISSION. UPDATED 10/15/15*JB

SUDDENLY HARD SHIFT, AND WEAK PERFORMANCE. GRINDING NOISE WHEN SHIFTING OR DRIVING SLOW. GAS PEDAL NOT RESPONSIVE. CAUSED ALMOST A ACCIDENT ON THE FREEWAY WHEN SUDDENLY THE CAR LOST POWER AND NEITHER UP OR DOWNSHIFT WAS POSSIBLE. I HAVE BEEN DRIVING MANUAL AND AUTOMATIC CARS AND TRUCKS FOR YEARS, THIS IS POOR ENGINEERING AND VERY DANGEROUS. CARS ALSO TENDS TO ROLL BACK AND ENGINE OFTEN VIBRATES, IT WANTS TO STALL BECAUSE ITS IN THE WRONG GEAR OR SOMETHING. AND AGAIN, IT BANGS THE GEARS AND THE CAR LITERALLY WANTS TO JUMP FORWARD IN THE CAR IN FRONT OF ME.

WHEN ACCELERATION TRANSMISSION SHIFTS VERY ROUGH. BANGS GEAR -> GRINDING NOISE. CAR FEELS WEAK AND ROLLS BACKWARD VERY EASY. GAS PEDAL NOT RESPONSIVE. CAUSED ALMOST A CAR CRASH ON THE FREEWAY WHEN SUDDEN LOSS OF POWER. I HAVE BEEN DRIVING MANUAL AND AUTOMATIC CARS BUT THIS IS DANGEROUS!!

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. WHILE DRIVING 20 MPH, VARIOUS WARNING LIGHTS ILLUMINATED AND THE VEHICLE CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE DEALER WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 28,000. ...UPDATED 09/22/15 *BF UPDATED 11/07/2017*CN

SEPTEMBER 2013- WHINING/GRINDING NOISE IN CAR. NOTHING FOUND. ALL 4 TIRES REPLACED (WAS TOLD THE SOUND WAS THE TIRES). SOUND WAS STILL THERE AFTER TIRES WERE PUT ON. WAS TOLD IT WAS "NORMAL". FEBRUARY 2014- TRANSMISSION WHINE, GRINDING NOISE, CAR SHUDDERS WHEN CHANGING GEARS. FORD REPLACED THE CLUTCH ASSEMBLY (FIRST CLUTCH REPLACEMENT). MAY 2014- GRINDING NOISE IN CAR. FORD CHECKED THE WHEELS, NOTHING FOUND. JULY 2014- TRANSMISSION WHINE, GRINDING NOISE, SHUDDERS IN BETWEEN GEARS. FORD REPLACED CLUTCH (SECOND CLUTCH REPLACEMENT). ALSO, GAS TANK WAS SLOW TO FILL. FORD REPLACED GAS TANK. AUGUST 2014- GAS STILL SLOW TO FILL. FORD ADJUSTED FILLER NECK. OCTOBER 2014- CAR OVERHEATED, STRANDED ME AT A GAS STATION. HAD TO GET CAR TOWED TO THE FORD DEALERSHIP. FORD REPLACED COOLING FAN. FEBRUARY 2015- REPLACED SERPENTINE BELT (BELIEVE THIS WAS DAMAGED WHEN CAR WAS HIT ON THE INTERSTATE BY A CRATE THAT FLEW OUT OF A TRUCK...

THERE WERE TWO INCIDENTS WHERE CAR LOST ALL POWER WHILE TRAVELLING AT 35 AND 50 MPH, THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON, THE TRANSMISSION DASHBOARD INDICATOR FLASHED FROM P TO D BACK AND FORTH. WHEN RESTARTING AND IDLING, THE ENGINE SHUDDERED. AFTER THE FIRST INCIDENT (5/29), FORD DEALERSHIP REPROGRAMMED THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE. AFTER THE SECOND INCIDENT (6/13), TWO WEEKS LATER, THE DEALERSHIP REPLACED THE CLUTCH AND THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE (TCM).

WHILE THE AC IS RUNNING AND THE CAR IS IDLING THE CAR WILL SURGE FORWARD AND WILL THEN CUT OFF.

MY VEHICLE WOULD NOT START ON THIS DATE. APPROXIMATELY 1 TO 2 MONTHS BEFORE THIS DATE I NOTICE THAT MY VEHICLE WOULD ACCELERATE AT AN ERRATIC RATE WHILE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY. AFTER TAKING MY CAR TO A FORD CERTIFIED MECHANIC I DISCOVERED THAT MY CAR DID NOT TURN ON, AND THE REASON I WAS EXPERIENCING ERRATIC ACCELERATION, WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS A DEFECT IN MY CAR'S TRANSMISSION. ON 05/22/2015, WHILE SHIFTING FROM PARK TO REVERSE I EXPERIENCED A CONSIDERABLE DELAY IN SHIFTING GEARS AND MY CAR'S DISPLAY INFORMED ME THAT THERE WAS AN ERROR IN MY TRANSMISSION. IT APPEARS THAT THE ERROR MY CAR'S TRANSMISSION WAS EXPERIENCING WAS NOT PROPERLY FIXED OR THE TRANSMISSION ITSELF IS INHERENTLY FLAWED IF IT REQUIRES CONSTANT REPAIRS.

WHILE PARKED WITH THE VEHICLE RUNNING (ABOUT 30 MINUTES IN 87 DEGREE WEATHER WITH THE AC ON), THE TRANSMISSION FELT LIKE IT TRIED TO GO INTO DRIVE AND ROCKED FORWARD SLIGHTLY. I LOOKED AT THE DASH AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON. I TESTED THE VEHICLE AND IT SEEMED ROAD WORTHY ENOUGH TO TRY AND GET HOME. WHEN DRIVING HOME AND STOPPED AT A STOP LIGHT, THE CAR'S DISPLAY FOR PARK, NEUTRAL, REVERSE, DRIVE, STARTED QUICKLY FLASHING BETWEEN DRIVE AND PARK. I COULD NOT ACCELERATE THE VEHICLE WHILE THIS WAS GOING ON. I PLACED THE VEHICLE IN PARK, AND THEN MET FAIRLY HEAVY RESISTANCE PUTTING IT BACK INTO DRIVE. AFTER A FEW SECONDS OF FLASHING BETWEEN DRIVE AND PARK, IT STOPPED AND I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE AGAIN. THE SAME THING HAPPENED A FEW MINUTES LATER WHILE I WAS ABOUT TO TURN INTO THE FORD DEALERSHIP. THIS TIME I...

WHILE DRIVING ON THE EXPRESSWAY (70 MPH) THE CAR SUDDENLY HAD NO POWER. I WAS PUSHING THE GAS PEDAL DOWN TO THE FLOOR BUT, THE CAR WAS NOT RESPONDING. I YANKED THE STEERING WHEEL HARD AND THE CAR SETTLED ON THE SHOULDER. IF A CAR WERE BEHIND ME (RARITY FOR A CAR NOT TO BE RIGHT BEHIND ON EXPRESSWAY) IT WOULD HAVE PLOWED RIGHT INTO MY CAR. MECHANIC COULD NOT FIND A PROBLEM. A YEAR LATER SAME THING IS STILL HAPPENING. THE LAST HAPPENED WHILE, I WAS STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT. CAR JUST WENT DEAD. I DRIVE STOP AND GO TO WORK AND BACK. CAR SEEMS TO SHIFT FROM FIRST GEAR TO THIRD GEAR EVERY TIME I HAVE TO SLOW DOWN OR STOP. SEEMS TO FIGHT ME FROM MOVING, THEN SUDDENLY LURCHES FORWARD. MY MOM BORROWED MY CAR ONE DAY AND SAYS SHE WILL NEVER STEP FOOT IN IT...

AS I WAS LEAVING WORK PULLING OUT OF THE ROAD I STEPPED ON THE GAS AND THE CAR STALLED. MAKING MULTIPLE VEHICLES COME TO A SCREECHING STOP ALMOST CAUSES MULTIPLE WRECKS. THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME. OTHER TIMES I WAS IN TRAFFIC PASSING PEOPLE OR JUST DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD AND THE CAR STARTED TO SHAKE AND WOULD STALL NOT ACCELERATING. LAST OF ALL MY CAR WOULD NOT START AT LEAST 3 TIMES IN ONE WEEK DUE TO CODE P2837 AND P2832

I REPORTED TO STERLING MCCALL ON 8/18/14 AT 5:50 P.M. THE PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE BEEN HAVING WITH MY 2011 FORD FIESTA. I ALSO REPORTED THE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM 14M01 .0N 8/20/14AT 7:19 A.M. I BROUGHT MY VEHICLE INTO STERLING MCCALL. STERLING MCCALL REFUSED TO FIX THE PROBLEM. I REPORTED TO LEGACY FORD ON 9/5/14AT 4:05 P.M. TO [XXX]. THE PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE BEEN HAVING WITH MY2011 FORD FIESTA. I ALSO REPORTED THE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION PROGRAM14M01. ON 9/11/14AT 6:59 P.M. I BROUGHT VEHICLE INTO LEGACY FORD. THEY GAVE ME A RENTAL CAR AT 7:15 P.M. ON 9/12/14 LEGACY FORD REFUSED TO FIX THE PROBLEM. I FILED A CASE [XXX]-5211951 WITH THE CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP CENTER AT 2:15P.M. I BROUGHT MY 2011 FORD FIESTA TO FIRESTONE FOR A DIAGNOSTIC ON 12/4/14. THE FIND WAS THAT THE ARTICLE SUPERSEDES TSB 11-9-2 TO UPDATE THE ISSUE STATEMENT AND SERVICE PROCEDURE. I BROUGHT IT...

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 FORD FIESTA. WHILE DRIVING AT VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE VEHICLE SHIFTED GEARS WITHOUT BEING PROMPTED. THE FAILURE RECURRED NUMEROUS TIMES. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A DEALER. THE TECHNICIAN DIAGNOSED THAT THE TRANSMISSION AND AUTOMATIC CLUTCH NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 55,000.

THIS CARS TRANSMISSION SLIPS OUT OF GEAR WHENEVER IT WANTS TOO, SHIFTS ERRATICALLY AND UNPREDICTABLE ESPECIALLY IN TRAFFIC AT SPEED BETWEEN 0 AND 45 MILES PER HOUR. TWO TIME I WAS ALMOST IN A FATAL ACCIDENT BECAUSE WHEN I STEPPED ON THE GAS WITH THE CAR IN DRIVE IT WAS NOT IT GEAR, THE ENGINE TACHOMETER JUMPED TO 4,000 RPM AND THEN SNAPPED INTO GEAR, THE TRANSMISSION SOUNDS LIKE IT IS FALLING APART FROM THE INSIDE OUT, SOUNDS LIKE ROCKS INSIDE. THE RIDER SIDE AIR BAG LIGHT SAYING THEY ARE OFF COMES ON WHEN EVER IT WANTS AS WELL EVEN WITH THE SEAT BELT BUCKLED, UP HILL ASSIST SHUTS OFF CAUSING NO OR VERY LITTLE ACCELERATION. THE CAR IS A DEATH TRAP IT WAS SOLD TO ME WITH A CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED WARRANTY 12 MONTH BUMPER TO BUMPER AND 150,000 MILE DRIVE TRAIN WARRANTY. I HAVE TAKEN IT BACK TWICE ALREADY...