2008 HONDA ACCORD Vehicle Speed Control Problems

I am having issues with my transmission. My gears get stuck between 2nd and 3rd gear while driving. It loses power and I have to switch to Neutral and put it back in Drive in order for it to become unstuck. I have taken it to Honda, and they told me it was the computer, and several other things. They replaced $2000 worth of parts and the problem still happens. I took it back to Honda and they told me I needed a new transmission after they took $2000 from me. This initially started approximately 5 months ago when my engine light came on.

TRANSMISSION SHIFTS HARD ON ACCELERATION, CAUSING HARD JERKS. WHEN BRAKING RPMS IS STILL HIGH AND ENGINE IS HIGH. IT IS TRULY AN UNSAFE SITUATION. IT SEEMS THE CAR DOESN'T KNOW WHAT GEAR TO BE IN. AND WHEN YOU TURN IT DOES THE SAME.

WILD EMOTION HARD SHIFTING HESITATION AND HIGH RPMS SHIFTS AROUND 456 RPMIT DOESN'T SEEM TO DO THIS WHEN THE CAR IS RUNNING COLD VERSUS AFTER IT'S BEEN ON A TRIP AND ENGINE IS WARMER. ON COLD START THE VEHICLE NOT IN MOTION MAKES A LOUD NOISE NOT SURE HOW TO DESCRIBE IT

THIS 2008 HONDA ACCORD CONSTANTLY MISSES MOSTLY FROM CYLINDER 1 AND SOMETIMES JUST SPITS OIL OUT OF THE TAILPIPE.THE MISSES HAPPEN AT IDLE, AND ALMOST 100% WHEN ATTEMPTING TO PASS MAKING IT EXTREMELY UNSAFE. IT HAS HAD MANY SENSORS REPLACE, ITS TIMING BELT REPLACED, ALL COILS, AND SPARKPLUGS MANY TIMES. THE MECHANIC SAYS THE SPARK PLUGS ARE LASER IRRIDIUM AND SHOULD LAST 100,000 MILES BUT ARE LUCKY TO LAST 10,000 MILES. I AM NOT SURE WHAT DOCUMENTS TO INCLUDE BUT AM JUST GETTING THIS COMPLAINT STARTED. I HAVE THE ACCORD AT THE MECHANIC TODAY BUT IT HAS BEEN MULTIPLE REPAIRS PRIOR TO THIS.

MY CAR IS PULLING CODES 339, 303, AND 302. MISFIRING AND FROM TIME TO TIME THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT FLASHES AND WON'T GO ABOVE 30MPH. CLICK LINK BELOW FOR THE INFORMATION ABOUT A RECALL FOR ALL 2008 HONDA ACCORD ENGINES. HTTP://RICKSFREEAUTOREPAIRADVICE.COM/HONDA-SERVICE-BULLETIN-09-050/

SPEED SECER IS BAD AND THE AIR BAD NEED TO BE REPLACE OR CHECK OUT LIGHT KEEP COMING ONIT BEEN IN THE SHOP EVERY TWO WEEK THERE SOMETHING WRONG

V TEC ACTUATOR MAKES GRIDING NOISE WHEN START A CAR FOR 2 TO3 SECONDS

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. WHILE ATTEMPTING TO START THE VEHICLE, THE INSTRUMENT PANEL WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED, INCLUDING THE CHECK ENGINE INDICATOR. WHILE DRIVING, THE SPEED WOULD NOT INCREASE PAST 20 MPH. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHO WAS UNABLE TO DETERMINE THE CAUSE OF THE FAILURE. THE LOCAL DEALER AND MANUFACTURER WERE NOT NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURES. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 120,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING AT 25 MPH WITH THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL DEPRESSED, THE VEHICLE SPEED DECREASED INDEPENDENTLY. THE CONTACT WAS ABLE TO PULL THE VEHICLE OVER. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE CONTACTS RESIDENCE. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO TWO DIFFERENT INDEPENDENT MECHANICS WHERE THEY DIAGNOSED FOR A NEW BATTERY, AND REBUILT ECU HOWEVER, THE REMEDY FAILED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO DEALER (BELL HONDA, 701 W BELL RD, PHOENIX,AZ, 85023) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE TRANSMISSION CONTROL MODULE SOFTWARE FAILED, CAUSING THE COUNTER SHAFT BEARING TO HIT AGAINST THE SPEED SENSOR AND ALL THREE PARTS NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE UNDER THE CASE NUMBER: 6198619, WHERE THEY INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT THE VEHICLE WAS SERVICED UNDER THE NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 11V395000 (POWER TRAIN) AS OF SEPTEMBER 26TH OF 2012, HOWEVER THE...

TURNED INTO A PARKING SPACE IN A PARKING LOT, IN MOTION AT SLOW PARKING LOT SPEEDS, WHEN BURST OF UNINTENDED ACCELERATION OCCURRED. PUSHED DOWN ON THE BRAKES, BUT THE BRAKES DID NOT END UP STOPPING THE CAR OR EVEN SLOWING DOWN THE SUDDEN ACCELERATION. THIS MADE ME THEN GO TO TURN THE CAR OFF WITH THE KEYS, BUT NOT BEFORE THE CAR ALREADY HAD WENT BEYOND THE PARKING SPACE BUMPER AND INTO THE WALL. A WALL WINDOW WAS BROKEN AND THE FRONT OF MY CAR WAS RUINED. AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. INSURANCE DID NOT CHECK THE CAR FOR ERROR CODES AND FILED OFF THE SITUATION AS A TOTAL LOSS, PAYING OFF THE REST I OWED ON THE CAR WITH THE DEDUCTIBLE.

WHEN OPERATING THE VEHICLE, I CAN'T EXCEDE 30 M.P.H. ON LEVEL TERRAIN. MAYBE 15 M.P.H. GOING UP HILLS WITH 4 WAY FLASHERS ACTIVATED. ACCELERATING WITH GAS PEDAL HAS NO EFFECT. DASHBOARD VCS LIGHT IS ON AND ENGINE SYMBOL. PROBLEM IS INTERMITTENT AND IF VEHICLE IS OPERATING CORRECTLY, SERVICE TECHNICIAN CAN'T FIND ANY FAULTS. THIS CONDITION IS FRIGHTFUL THIS PROBLEM EXISTS UNDER NORMAL DRIVING CONDITIONS OVER CITY STREETS AND EXPRESSWAYS. I'VE OBSERVED THAT WHEN ENGINE IS IDLING, DEPRESSING THE ACCELERATOR WILL MAXIMIZE THE R.P.M. TO ONLY 3,000 SEVERAL TIMES, I'VE TURNED THE ENGINE OFF AND RESTARTED WITH OPERATION NORMAL BUT DASHBOARD ENGINE SYMBOL INDICATED. *TR

VSA BRAKEAND ABS LIGHT COMES ON AFTER ENGINE HAS WARMED UP. HONDA DEALOR HAS DTC 122-01 VSA SELENOID VALVE MALFUNCTION COST FOR THIS DEFECT IN THE VSA LIGHT PER WRITTEN ESTIMATE IS $1639.00. THIS IS A SAFETY HIGHWAY HAZARD. CONTACTED HONDA CORPORATION CUSTOMER SERVICE CASE# 04375940 AND KNOW ONE HAS KNOW KNOWLEDGE OF THE SAFETY CONCERN AND FAIL TO FIXED AND PAY FOR THIS SAFTEY HIGHWAY SAFETY NEED. REFUSES TO HAVE A SUPERVISOR CONTACT ME TO DISCUSS THE CLASS ACTION POWERTRAIN COVERED TIL 6-2016 SERVICE BULLETIN 13-078. MY CAR WILL NOT INCREASE IN SPEED STALLS AT 55 MPH ON HIGH SPEED AND SPEED LIMIT ON HIGHWAY IS 70 MPH AND CAN RECEIVED A TICKET FOR DRIVING UNDER SPEED LIMITED THAT CAN CAUSE A ACCIDENT ON THE HIGHWAYS.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE REVVED AND THE RPMS INCREASED, WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS IN THE PARK POSITION. IN ADDITION, THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE FAILED TO ACCELERATE PROPERLY WHEN THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED AND MOVED AT A VERY SLOW PACE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 105,400.

IT HAPPENED TWICE, BOTH TIMES I HAD TRIED TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP AND THE CAR WOULD SUDDENLY START TO ACCELERATOR, WOULDN'T STOP RIGHT AWAY, THIS COULD BECOME VERY DANGEROUS. *TR

ON 12/22/2014, MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD LX (WHICH HAS 98,300 MILES ON IT) WAS TOWED INTO MY LOCAL HONDA DEALER. THE REASON FOR MY HAVING IT TOWED INTO MY LOCAL DEALER WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT MY ENGINE FAILED WHILE DRIVING ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET DRIVE TWO MILES FROM MY HOME. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER THAT MY ENGINE WOULD FAIL AS THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT DID NOT GO ON, THERE WAS NO OIL LIGHT ILLUMINATED, ETC. THUS I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I WAS DRIVING AND TRIED TO GIVE THE CAR SOME GAS AND THE CAR DID NOT ACCELERATE ' THUS I ROLLED TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND CONTACTED A TOWING COMPANY. THE SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE CONTACTED ME VIA PHONE AND LET ME KNOW THAT THERE WAS NO COMPRESSION IN CYLINDER 2 AND THAT I LIKELY NEEDED A NEW ENGINE. THE INITIAL ESTIMATE WOULD BE $6,000 FOR...

THIS WAS THE SECOND TIME MY CAR ACCELERATED FOR NO REASONS WHILE I WAS DRIVING. THE FIRST TIME I WAS ONLY DRIVING 35 MILES AN HOUR AND NO ONE WAS IN FRONT OF ME. THE SECOND TIME THE CAR ACCELERATED AS I WAS STOPPING AT A RED LIGHT. I BARELY MISSED A CAR BY ONE FOOT. BOTH TIMES I WENT TO THE HONDA DEALERSHIP IN SANFORD. LONG STORY SHORT...NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO FIX IT. I AM EXTREMELY UPSET OVER THE IDEA THAT THERE ARE ALL CAR OWNERS WITH THESE ELECTRONIC SYSTEMS THAT DON'T WORK. THE SECOND TIME MY THREE YEAR GRANDSON WAS IN THE BACK SEAT. THE DEALERSHIP SAID THE ELECTRONIC SYSTEM SENT A MESSAGE THAT DESIGNATED THAT THERE WAS AN ACCELERATION OR MALFUNCTION. ANYWAY I AM SENDING THIS BECAUSE I WANTED MY CAR FIXED AND BECAUSE IT IS A PAPER TRAIL IF SOMEONE GETS KILLED IN THIS CAR....

WHEN ACCELERATING TO MERGE INTO HIGHWAY TRAFFIC, CAR UNCONTROLLABLY RAPIDLY ACCELERATES AND REVS UP TO 5000 RPMS. BRAKING NO MATTER HOW HARD, NOR PUMPING BRAKES DID NOT STOP CAR - MAY HAVE PREVENTED IT FROM GOING FASTER, HOWEVER; BUT REVS REMAINED HIGH. ONLY WAY TO REGAIN CONTROL WAS TO SWITCH TRANSMISSION TO NEUTRAL AND THEN BACK TO DRIVE. WHEN PROBLEM FIRST OCCURRED, RAPID PUMPING OF BRAKES DECELERATED CAR AND ALLOWED TO REGAIN CONTROL; HOWEVER, BRAKE PUMPING DID NOT WORK RECENTLY. PROBLEM IS INTERMITTENT AND THUS, DEALER COULD NOT REPLICATE EVEN WHEN COMPLAINT OCCURRED DURING FIRST YEAR OF OWNERSHIP - AND IN FACT, DID NOT RECUR FOR MORE THAN 1 YEAR AFTER WARRANTY EXPIRED. *TR

SUBJECT: SUDDEN UNINTENDED ACCELERATION AT ABOUT 9:25 PM, ON WEDNESDAY JANUARY 23, 2013 I WAS PARKED IN THE NORTH PARKING LOT OF THE VIENNA METRO STATION, IN FAIRFAX, VIRGINIA, AWAITING ARRIVAL OF MY WIFE. I HAD PARKED IN THE FIRST PARKING SPACE, ACROSS FROM THE WAITING AREA IN FRONT OF THE METRO STATION ENTRANCE. WHEN I SAW MY WIFE EMERGE FROM THE ENTRANCE OF THE METRO STATION, I STARTED MY CAR AND SHIFTED TO DRIVE. THE ENGINE SUDDENLY REVVED UP AND THE CAR LUNGED FORWARD, ACCELERATING AT HIGH SPEED AND OUT OF CONTROL. I REMEMBER REACTING BY APPLYING THE BRAKES WITH ALL MY MIGHT AND ENGAGING THE HAND BRAKE WITHOUT MUCH EFFECT.THE CAR LUNGED FORWARD ABOUT 100 FEET AND HIT A CONCRETE BARRIER WHICH SMASHED THE FRONT AND ENGINE AND TOTALED THE VEHICLE. LUCKILY THERE WERE NO OTHER CARS OR PEDESTRIANS IN THE VICINITY OTHERWISE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE...

UNINTENDED ACCELERATION. DRIVING SLOWLY IN A PARKING LOT LOOKING FOR A SPACE, THE CAR SUDDENLY TOOK OFF, ACCELERATING, THE ENGINE RACING, HEARD A CLICKING NOISE. STEPPED HARD ON THE BRAKE, THE ENGINE STOPPED RACING, THE CAR STOPPED, BUT NOT BEFORE THE CAR RAMMED SOME BUSHES, SCRATCHING THE PAINT. *TR

THE CAR DID NOT WANT TO MOVE AFTER IT WAS PUT IN GEAR. WHEN THE CAR DID MOVE IT WAS VERY HESITANT AND WOULD NOT PICK UP SPEED AT FIRST, THEN WOULD GRADUALLY PICK UP SPEED. THE CAR IS BACK AT THE DEALERSHIP AND FIRST THEY SAID IT WAS TRANSMISSION SENSOR, THEN SAID IT WAS THE COMPUTER, AFTER REPLACING THAT THE CAR BEGIN A ROUGH IDLE. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE ACCELERATED UNEXPECTEDLY. THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT WHILE STOPPED, THERE WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN THE ENGINE RPMS UP TO 4,000. IN ORDER TO STOP THE FAILURE, THE CONTACT RELEASED THE BRAKES MOMENTARILY BEFORE DEPRESSING THEM. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE FAILURE OCCURRED RANDOMLY. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 25,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 45,000. UPDATED 5/7/12 *CN

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE ATTEMPTING TO PARK, THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY ACCELERATED WITH THE BRAKE DEPRESSED, CAUSING HIM TO CRASH INTO A BUILDING. A POLICE REPORT WAS FILED. NEITHER THE DEALER NOR THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE NOR WAS THE VEHICLE DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE CURRENT AND THE FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 25,000.

MY 2008 HONDA ACCORD ONLY HAVE 25000 MILES ON IT AND RECENTLY WHEN TRYING TO SLOW DOWN/BRAKING THE RPM/ENGINE REVS UP AND THE CAR ACCELERATE WHILE TRYING TO STOP. I DROVE IT LAST WEEKEND FOR ABOUT 2HRS IT HAPPENED OVER 5 TIMES. *KB

I FIRST NOTICED LOSING POWER ON ACCELERATION ON A FULL STOP...THEN IT TURNS SLUGGISH TO ACCELERATE MORE WHEN IT REACHES 60-70 MPH EVEN PRESSED HARD ON THE GAS PEDAL...IT'S LIKE LOSING POWER. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS STOPPED AT A STOP SIGN WHEN IT SUDDENLY ACCELERATED. THE VEHICLE DID NOT STOP WHEN THE BRAKES WERE APPLIED AND IT CONTINUED TO ACCELERATE UP TO 70 MPH. THE CONTACT LOST CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE AND CRASHED INTO A TRUCK WHILE ATTEMPTING TO AVOID OTHER VEHICLES. IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE DRIVER FROM THE VEHICLE, IT HAD TO BE CUT OPEN. THE DRIVER SUFFERED SEVERE INJURIES AND WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL FOR TREATMENT. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT EXAMINED FOR THE CAUSE OF FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS DESTROYED. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 39,000. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.

WE PURCHASED A NEW 2008 HONDA ACCORD EXL IN 2008. IT HAS ONLY 40,000 MILES ON IT AND MY HUSBAND WAS DRIVING AND WENT TO PASS AND THE ENGINE MISSED AND AND BEGAN TO SHUDDER AND MISFIRE AND ALMOST HAD A HEAD ON BECAUSE HE COULD NOT ACCELERATE AND HAD TO FIND A WAY TO GET BACK INTO LINE. WE TOOK IT IN AND THE ONLY THING TO FIX IT WAS REPLACE THE SPARK PLUG WHICH WE DID AND CAR WAS FINE FOR A FEW WEEKS BUT NOW IT IS DOING IT AGAIN. I FEEL IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE IF IN THE MIDDLE OF DRIVING YOU CANNOT ACCELERATE THE VEHICLE. *KB

OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY ACCELERATED WHILE DRIVEN UP HILL. THE DRIVER LOST CONTROL THE VEHICLE TURNED OVER. THE ENGINE CAUGHT ON FIRE. THERE WAS NO INJURIES. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED. THE INSURANCE COMPANY INVESTIGATED THE FAILURE HOWEVER SHE DIDN'T RECEIVED THE INVESTIGATION REPORT. *TR

2008 HONDA ACCORD. CONSUMER WRITES TO INFORM OF SEVERAL EXPERIENCES SUCH AS SUDDEN ACCELERATION WITH VEHICLE *TGW THE CONSUMER STATED ALL OF THE INCIDENTS HAPPENED WHILE TRYING TO SLOW THE VEHICLE DOWN TO A STOPPED POSITION AND HAVE OCCURRED IN PARKING LOTS, DRIVEWAYS AND IN TRAFFIC. THE CONSUMER STATED ON TWO OF THE SEVERAL OCCASIONS, THE CONSUMERS FATHER EXPERIENCED SUDDEN ACCELERATION WHILE PULLING INTO A RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAY AND PULLING INTO A PARKING SPACE. THE INCIDENTS THE CONSUMER EXPERIENCED HAPPENED WHEN SHE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE A LEFT TURN AT AN INTERSECTION, PULLING INTO A PARKING SPOT, APPROACHING A STOP SIGN AT AN INTERSECTION AS WELL AS DRIVING BEHIND OTHER VEHICLES WHICH WERE SLOWING TO STOP AND TRYING TO EXIT A PARKING LOT. IN ALL CASES, THE CONSUMER AND HER FATHER REMOVED THEIR FEET FROM THE ACCELERATOR THEN PLACED IT ON THE BRAKE TO SLOW TO A STOP. HOWEVER, WHILE APPLYING THE...

WHILE DRIVING AT ABOUT 60 MPH ON THE HIGHWAY, THEN TAPPING THE BRAKE TO SLOW THE CAR DOWN, SUDDENLY THE RPM DISPLAY CONSOLE SHOW THE NEEDLE REVUP FROM 1.5 TO 3 , AND ENGINE ROAR LIGHTLY WHEN BRAKE IS TAPPED TO SLOW DOWN TO GET INTO THE RAMP. WHEN BRAKING AGAIN WHILE ENTERING INTO THE RAMP, THE RPM GET DOWN BACK TO ABOUT 1.5, AND THE ENGINE IS IDLE BACK TO NORMAL. IT HAPPEN EVERY TIME WHILE TRYING TO SLOW DOWN THE CAR AT ABOUT 55-65 MPH TO GET IN THE EXIT. *TR

I TO HAVE A 08 ACCORD EXL 4 CYL AND SO FAR I HAVE A LIST OF THINGS WRONG WITH THE CAR. *TR 1. THE FAMOUS VIBRATION 2. TERRIBLE FUEL MILEAGE 3.LIGHTS FLASHING TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE ARE HIGH BEAMING ME [THAT'S FUN] 4. DRIVERS SEAT JERKS AND MOVES REAL SLOW 5. WIND NOISE ON R/H FRONT OF CAR 6. HARD STARTING IN COLD WEATHER 7. GEAR SHIFT RATTLES 8. R/H FRONT DOOR RATTLES 9. A BANGING IN THE TRUNK OVER MODERATE BUMPS OR RAILROAD TRACKS [THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE] 10. SQUEAKING AND SOMETIMES GRINDING BRAKES 11. RIGHT FRONT SHOCK BANGS AT TIMES 12. WHEN YOU PUSH THE ACCELERATOR ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THE WAY THE CAR BOGS UNTIL ABOUT 3 THOUSAND RPM'S THEN DOUBLES AND TRIPLES IN POWER. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ACCORD. WHILE DRIVING 20 MPH, THE ENGINE REVVED. THE CONTACT WAS ABLE TO DRIVE THE VEHICLE TO HIS RESIDENCE, BUT THE ENGINE "RACED" THE ENTIRE TIME. A FEW DAYS LATER, THE CONTACT'S WIFE STARTED THE VEHICLE AND LIGHTLY TAPPED THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL. THE VEHICLE SUDDENLY EXPERIENCED UNINTENDED ACCELERATION, CAUSING THE VEHICLE TO CRASH STRAIGHT INTO A HOME ACROSS THE STREET. THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED, BUT THEY FAILED TO WORK PROPERLY. THE VEHICLE HAD NOT BEEN MOVED SINCE THE DAY OF THE FIRST INCIDENT. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO A DEALER, BUT THEY DID NOT EXPLAIN WHAT CAUSED THE FAILURE OR DEFECT. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 1,600. UPDATED 07/15/08. *LJ THE DEALER STATED THE COMPUTER DID NOT SHOW ANY DEFECTS AND THE BRAKES WERE NOT APPLIED. UPDATED 07/15/08

WHEN MAKING TURNS THE CAR SURGES. *TR