2011 DODGE CHARGER Engine Problems

WHILE DRIVING, "BATTERY SAVER MODE" MESSAGE CAME UP. FROM HERE, I COULD SMELL SOMETHING COMING FROM UNDER THE HOOD. THEN THE ABS LIGHT AND TRACTION CONTROL LIGHT CAME ON. WAS ABLE TO GET IT HOME, BEFORE TRYING TO DRIVE IT AGAIN LATER AFTER JUMPING IT AND IT WAS COMPLETELY DEAD. WAS ABLE TO FINALLY JUMP IT LONG ENOUGH TO GET OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY AND INTO THE STREET SO IT COULD BE TOWED. BROUGHT IT TO MY DEALERSHIP AND THEY SAID IT WAS A BAD ALTERNATOR. IT IS ONLY A 2011 AND HAS OVER 50K MILES. *TR

DRIVING WITH MY DAUGHTER IN THE CAR IN HEAVY MORNING TRAFFIC AND IVIC MESSAGE CAME ON STATING CAR WAS IN BATTERY SAVER MODE. SECOND TIME IN 4 MONTHS THIS HAS HAPPENED (GOT ALTERNATOR AND BATTERY TESTED AND REPLACED THE FIRST TIME) SO I IMMEDIATELY TURNED AROUND TO HEAD BACK HOME. BY THE TIME I GOT NEAR MY NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT 5 MINUTES LATER EVERYTHING WAS SHUTTING OFF AND I COULD ONLY GO 25 MPH WITH NO POWER STEERING. ABOUT A MINUTE OR SO BEFORE THE IVIC MESSAGE I NOTICED A SLIGHT WHINING COMING FROM MY ENGINE COMPARTMENT. IF I JUMP THE BATTERY, CAR STARTS BUT STILL IN BATTERY SAVER MODE. *TR

DRIVING HOME AT APPROXIMATELY 45MPH, THE MESSAGE SCREEN INDICATED "BATTERY SAVER MODE". AT THIS TIME, THE RADIO SHUT ITSELF OFF, THE AIR CONDITIONING SWITCHED TO FULL-BLAST HEAT, THE SPEEDOMETER STOPPED WORKING, ALL LIGHTS SHUT OFF, THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS CAME ON FOR A FEW SWIPES AND THEN STOPPED, AND THE THROTTLE RESPONSE TO THE ACCELERATOR PEDAL WOULD ONLY ALLOW ME TO REACH AROUND 30MPH (ON A 50MPH HIGHWAY). I MANAGED TO GET THE CAR INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT DIED BEFORE I COULD PARK IT. I HAD TO PUT IT IN NEUTRAL AND PUSH IT INTO A PARKING SPACE. *TR

DRIVING ON THE ROAD AT ABOUT 75 MPH (THE SPEED LIMIT AT THE TIME) IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE TEXAS, MY ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS STARTED TO SHUT DOWN. THE FIRST THING WE NOTICED TURN OFF WAS THE AUDIO SYSTEM AND IT WOULDN'T TURN BACK ON, THEN THE CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEM. I CHECKED THE MESSAGES ON MY DASHES MESSAGE CENTER AND IT TOLD ME THE VEHICLE WAS IN BATTERY SAVER MODE. SHORTLY THEREAFTER (MAYBE ANOTHER MINUTE OR TWO) THE ABS AND TRACTION CONTROL INDICATORS CAME ON AND ALL MY GAUGES (SPEEDOMETER AND WHATNOT) ALL DROPPED TO ZERO. THE CAR WAS STILL IN MOTION AND WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND A ROAD TO PULL OFF AT (THOUGH WE WERE NO WHERE NEAR ANYTHING AT THE TIME). AT THAT POINT I NOTICED THE POWER STEERING, LOCKS, WINDOWS, AND ANYTHING ELECTRIC WENT ON THE CAR TOO. AFTER WE TURNED OFF THE CAR, IT WOULD...

WAS DRIVING AND THE POWER SAVER MODE CAME ON THE CAR. SAW SMOKE, CHECKED THE ENGINE AND THE ALTERNATOR WAS SMOKING. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. THIS CAR IS 3 YEARS OLD WITH 60,000 MILES ON IT. THAT IS RIDICULOUS. THE CAR HAS NOT WENT THROUGH ANYTHING STENOS. WE ARE AT A LOST FOR WORDS AND THEN WHEN CALLED AND ASKED ABOUT IT THERE IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE WITHOUT FURTHER INVESTIGATION. PLEASE INVESTIGATE, THERE ARE TOO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS. THIS IS COSTING OVER 800 DOLLARS, THIS IS RIDICULOUS ON A LOW MILE LOW YEAR CAR, RIGHT AFTER THE WARRANTY GOES OUT. PLEASE INVESTIGATE AND DO SOMETHING, THANKS. *TR

I WAS DRIVING NOTICED MY CAR HAD A SLIGHT LOUDER SOUND COMING FROM THE ENGINE LIKE IT WAS RIVED UP. AS I WAS DRIVING I NOTICED THE ABS LIGHTS CAME ON; TRACTION LIGHT; AND ENGINE LIGHT ALL FLASHED ACROSS THE SCREEN AND WENT OFF. THEN I STARTED SMELLING A STRONG BURNING SMELL I HAD MAD IT TO MY DESTINATION CUT THE CAR OFF. I WENT TO CRANK THE CAR BACK UP ;NOTHING HAPPENED CAR HAD LOST ALL PRIOR MY WINDOWS, DOORS ALL LOCKED UP WOULD NOT ROLL UP OR DOWN OR DOORS UNLOCK HAD TO CALL A TOW TRUCK. CAR HAD NO POWER COMPLETELY BLACK SCREENS EVERYTHING SHUTDOWN. *TR

DRIVING AT 25 MPH, WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON FOR DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. ODD SOUND COMING FROM MOTOR. THE INFORMATION MESSAGE ALERT LIT UP. CHECKED IT, AND THE MESSAGE ALERT WAS "BATTERY SAVER MODE". ODD SMELL (ELECTRICAL) COMING FROM THE ENGINE. PARKED, CLOSED WINDOWS, SHUT THE CAR OFF. WENT TO RESTART CAR AND IT WOULDN'T START. HAD A FRIEND TRY TO JUMP WITH CABLES, AND IT DIDN'T WORK. CALLED FOR TOW TRUCK TO COME AND TAKE TO DEALER. I HAVE A BUMPER TO BUMPER LIFETIME WARRANTY. DEALER CAN'T "LOOK" AT IT UNTIL TOMORROW. IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 2 HOURS WAIT FOR TOW TRUCK,(PROMISED TO BE HERE AN HOUR AGO.) *TR

WAS DRIVING CAR WHEN RADIO SHUT OFF, ABS BRAKE WARNING CAME ON AND CAR LOST STEERING AND BRAKE POWER. GOT CAR HOME AND IT STOPPED RUNNING. TRIED TO JUMP AND DRIVE TO DEALER BUT COULD NOT KEEP ENGINE RUNNING, POWER WORKED OFF AND ON. TOO DANGEROUS TO DRIVE ON HIGHWAY WITH POSSIBLE LOSS OF CONTROL. $800 TO REPLACE ALTERNATOR. *TR

I GOT THE "BATTERY SAVER MODE" WARNING ON MY CAR. I LOOKED IT UP ON THE INTERNET AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT DODGE CHARGERS AND THERE ALTERNATORS. THE NEXT MORNING I CALLED THE DEALER SHIP TO SEE WHAT THEY THINK IT IS AND IF I CAN GET IN SO THEY CAN LOOK AT THE CAR, THEY ALSO SAID IT COULD BE THE ALTERNATOR BUT COULD NOT GET ME IN UNTIL THE NEXT MORNING BUT SAID IT SHOULD BE SAFE TO DRIVE. THEY LOOK UP MY WARRANTY AND IT WAS OUT OF WARRANTY FOR THE ALTERNATOR...I ONLY HAVE 38,600 MILES ON MY CAR!! I SHOULD NOT BE DEALING WITH THING LIKE THIS ON A 3 YEAR OLD CAR! LUCKILY I BOUGHT A PORTFOLIO WARRANTY THAT COVERS IT BUT WITH $100 DEDUCTIBLE BUT THE CATCH IS I HAVE TO GO TO THE DEALER WHERE I BOUGHT IT FROM! WHEN...

I HAVE A 2011 DODGE CHARGER THAT I SAVED UP A LONG TIME TO BUY. LAST WEEK ON 9/3/14 ON MY TO TAKE MY KIDS TO SCHOOL THE AUDIO IN THE CAR WENT OUT. THE TOUCH SCREEN STILL HAD FUNCTIONALITY JUST NO AUDIO, FIGURED A FUSE MAY HAVE BLOWN. CHECK THE FUSES AND EVERYTHING SEEMED OK. LATER ON THE SAME DAY, ON THE WAY TO PICK THE KIDS UP FROM SCHOOL THE RADIO WAS WORKING FINE. I APPROACHED A INTERSECTION AND STARTED TO SLOW DOWN WHEN THE RADIO CUT OFF. THE CAR STARTED PUTTERING AND THE INSIDE GAUGES BEGAN FLASHING AND THE WIPERS JUST TURNED ON BY THEMSELVES. NEXT THING I KNOW EVERYTHING IN THE CAR SHUT OFF. THE RADIO,THE ENGINE, THE LIGHTS, EVERYTHING. I COULD NOT GET IT TO GO INTO NEUTRAL TO PUSH THE CAR OUT OF THE ROAD BECAUSE NOTHING IN THE CAR WOULD COME ON. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 DODGE CHARGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 40 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE CONTACT'S RESIDENCE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 48,000.

ON 8/24 I WAS DRIVING ABOUT 30 MPH WHEN MY CAR STARTED CUTTING OUT. THE RADIO WENT OFF, MY ENGINE DIED AND MY STEERING LOCKED. I ALMOST HIT A PEDESTRIAN AND WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A FEW CARS BUT I WAS ABLE TO AVOID IT. I STOPPED AND WAS ABLE TO START MY CAR TO GET IT TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. I HAD IT TOWED HOME, NEXT DAY I HAD IT TOWED TO MOMENTUM DODGE BECAUSE I LOOKED ONLINE AND HAD 3 RECALLS, DOOR HANDLES, HEADLIGHTS AND I DON'T KNOW THE 3RD ONE. I WAS HOPING IT WAS THE PROBLEM. IT WAS NOT. I THEN HAD MY CAR TOWED TO ANOTHER SHOP WHO VERIFIED MY ALTERNATOR IS OUT. AS OF NOW THE ONLY PLACE I CAN THE FIND THE ALTERNATOR IS, OF COURSE, THE DODGE DEALER WHICH I CANNOT AFFORD. *TR

WHILE DRIVING ON HIGHWAY AT APPROX. 50 MPH, THE "BATTER SAVER" MESSAGE APPEARED ON THE DASH DISPLAY FOLLOWED BY MULTIPLE SYSTEMS SHUTTING DOWN ALONG WITH MULTIPLE FAULT LIGHTS INCLUDING BRAKES, ABS, BAT. THE ENGINE STOPPED RUNNING AND THERE WAS MINIMAL CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE. STEERING & BRAKING WERE ALMOST NON EXISTENT. AFTER PULLING TO THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, THERE WAS A STRONG ELECTRICAL SMELL COMING FROM THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT. UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION, THE SMELL WAS COMING FROM THE ALTERNATOR. NO ELECTRICAL POWER WAS AVAILABLE TO LOCK/UNLOCK DOORS, TURN ON HAZARD LIGHTS, OR PLACE THE CAR IN NEUTRAL IN ORDER TO PULL THE VEHICLE ON TO A TOW TRUCK. *TR

MORNING OF THE INCIDENT, HEARD A "WHINING" NOISE WHEN CAR STARTED. DRIVE SHORT DISTANCE TO WORK AND HOME. WHILE DRIVING ON HIGHWAY IN TRAFFIC GOING 25MPH AT 6PM, LOST POWER TO RADIO, POWER STEERING, ABS LIGHT FLASHED, BRAKE LIGHT FLASHED, AND STRONG ELECTRICAL SMELL. WHEN I FINALLY GOT THE CAR TO THE SHOULDER, ITWAS IN BATTERY SAVER MODE AND COULD NOT DETECT KEY FOR KEYLESS ENTRY. NO ELECTRICAL POWER. WHEN I CALLED DODGE DEALER WHERE IT WAS TOWED, THEY SAID IT WOULD BE $700 FOR PARTS AND LABOR. *TR

MY CAR STARTED MAKING A SQUEAKY NOISE FROM THE ENGINE ONE MORNING, THEN AS I DROVE IT THE RADIO WENT OFF AND MY BATTERY SAID IT WAS GOING INTO BATTERY SAVING MODE. MY AC STARTED TO TURN ON AND OFF, SO I LOWERED MY WINDOWS THEN MY WINDOWS WOULDN'T GO BACK UP. I HAD NUMEROUS ENGINE LIGHTS COME. MY WINDSHIELD WIPERS WHERE TURNING ON AND OFF. MY POWER STEERING STOPPED WORKING, SO I PULLED OVER. I TURNED MY CAR OFF AND IT WOULDN'T TURN ON. I CHECKED MY BATTERY THE NEXT MORNING TO SEE IF I NEEDED A NEW ONE BUT IT WAS FINE. I JUMPED MY CAR AND DROVE IT AROUND A LITTLE AND STILL HAD ALL THE PROBLEMS STATED ABOVE WITH MY HEADLIGHTS FLASHING ON AND OFF THIS TIME. I TURNED THE CAR OFF AND THE LIGHTS INSIDE WHERE STILL FLASHING, SO I UNPLUGGED THE BATTERY. MY CAR...

I WAS DRIVING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE CAR STARTED SMOKING AND THEN STARTED TO DECELERATE.I PULLED OVER TO THE SIDE TO TAKE A LOOK UNDER THE HOOD AND HEARD A BUZZING/RINGING NOISE FROM THE ENGINE.I SLOWLY DROVE TO AUTO ZONE TO GET A DIAGNOSTIC AND IT READ ALTERNATOR. *TR

I WAS TRAVELING NORTHBOUND ON A HIGHWAY AT APPROXIMATELY 1730 AND MY RADIO SCREEN COMPLETELY WENT OUT, FOLLOWED BY EVERYTHING ELSE THAT USES POWER IN THE VEHICLE I STARTED GETTING SEVERAL WARNING LIGHTS FOR BREAKS, TIRE PRESSURE, PRETTY MUCH EVERY WARNING, VEHICLE ENTERED BATTERY SAVER MODE WHILE DRIVING. STEERING WHEEL WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO MANIPULATE MAYBE AFTER A COUPLE MINUTES MY VEHICLE COMPLETELY SHUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC WITHOUT WARNING. I WAS UNABLE TO TURN ON HAZARDS, OR ROLL WINDOWS DOWN OR DO ANYTHING WITH MY VEHICLE, THIS WAS VERY UNSAFE AND COULD HAVE CAUSED A MAJOR ACCIDENT. THE ISSUE SEEMS TO STEM FROM THE ALTERNATOR COMPLETELY FAILING WHILE DRIVING. THIS WAS VERY STRESSFUL FOR ME AND EVERYONE INVOLVED. *TR

DRIVING AND THE CAR STARTED TO MAKE A HUMMING SOUND FROM THE ENGINE. THEN OUT OF NOWHERE CAR STARTED TO BLOW HOT AIR, THE RADIO WENT OFF, "BATTERY SAFE MODE" WAS ON THE SCREEN AND I COULD START TO SMELL SMOKE. I PULLED OVER AND TRIED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. I WAS DIRECTED TO GO TO EITHER AN AUTO STORE OR THE DEALERSHIP TO GET A DIAGNOSTIC RAN. I CAUTIOUSLY DROVE THE CAR (ONLY GOING ABOUT 20 MPH TOPS) TO AN AUTO STORE. THEY RAN A DIAGNOSTIC AND I WAS TOLD THE ALTERNATOR WAS SHOT AND THAT I WAS THE 3RD PERSON THIS WEEK THAT HAD THE SAME ISSUE. I DROVE MY CAR LESS THAN A MILE HOME AND THE MOMENT THAT I TURNED INTO MY APARTMENT COMPLEX THE CAR JUST SHUT OFF AND SMOKE WAS BILLOWING FROM UNDER THE HOOD. THE NEXT DAY WHEN I TRIED...

3/9/13 - VEHICLE IN FOR OIL CHANGE. BATTERY SAVER MODE MESSAGE DISPLAYED ON DASH 2 MILES DOWN THE ROAD. PULLED OVER TO CHECK OWNER'S MANUAL WHICH STATES IMMEDIATE VEHICLE SERVICE REQUIRED. TO AIRPARK DODGE DEALERSHIP APPROX 7 MILES DOWN THE ROAD AND POWER STEERING FAILURE AND THEN ENGINE STALLS WHILE MAKING LEFT TURN THROUGH INTERSECTION. HAD BOTH MY CHILDREN AGES 2 AND 5 IN THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME AND THANKFULLY NO ON COMING TRAFFIC DURING THE TURN. 3/12/13 - ALTERNATOR AND BATTERY REPLACED AT AIRPARK DODGE. 4/23/13 (35,690 MILES) - VEHICLE BACK TO AIRPARK DODGE FOR ANOTHER BATTERY SAVER MODE MESSAGE. SOURCE COULD NOT BE FOUND, NO REPAIRS MADE. 7/25/14 (47,900 MILES) - BATTERY SAVER MODE MESSAGE, NO DASH LIGHTS, NO A/C, NO POWER STEERING, NO HEADLIGHTS WHILE DOING 30 MPH. VEHICLE TO AIRPARK DODGE AGAIN ON 7/29/14. *TR

CAR WENT INTO BATTERY SAVER MODE, RADIO SHUT OFF, TRIED TO MAKE IT HOME HAD TO PULL OVER AND HAVE TOWED, ALTERNATOR WAS OUT. WE JUST HAD TO PUT ANOTHER ALTERNATOR ON IN MAY OF YEAR 2014, SAME THING, RADIO OUT, MADE IT TO AUTO REPAIR SHOP, THE PART WAS ON BACK ORDER BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH A HIGH DEMAND, WE WERE TOLD THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM IN THIS CAR. *TR

I RECENTLY HAD TO REPLACE THE ALTERNATOR ON MY 2011 DODGE CHARGER AT A TOTAL PERSONAL COST OF MORE THAN $800. CONSIDERING THAT MOST PEOPLE THESE DAYS DON'T HAVE THIS TYPE OF MONEY JUST SITTING AROUND, IT WAS A VERY TROUBLING SITUATION. AS I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE STREET I NOTICED THAT MY VEHICLE BEGAN SLOWING DOWN WITHOUT ME BREAKING AND THE DASHBOARD DISPLAYS STARTED FLICKERING. BATTERY SAVE MODE WAS DISPLAYED AND THE CAR STARTING MAKING A LOUD WHINING SOUND. THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY THE SMELL OF SOMETHING BURNING AND SMOKE COMING FROM THE HOOD AND THROUGH THE FRONT VENTS. OF COURSE I WAS EXTREMELY ALARMED AND AT THE SAME TIME OTHER VEHICLES WERE HONKING AT ME BECAUSE MY CAR WAS GOING SO SLOW AND I WAS IN EVERYONE'S WAY. THE BURNING SMELL AND SMOKE WERE SO BAD THAT I JUST KNEW SOMETHING HAD TO BE ON FIRE. I...

THE MORNING OF JULY 5, 2013 I STARTED MY CAR AND ALL THE DASH LIGHTS CAME ON. IT HAD DONE THIS ONCE BEFORE BUT ONLY FOR A SECOND AND THEN ALL WAS FINE.THIS TIME THEY DIDN'T TURN OFF AND WHEN I STARTED TO DRIVE IT WAS MAKING "WHINING" NOISE. I CALLED THE DEALERSHIP AND TOLD THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON. THEY TOLD ME TO DRIVE TO THE DEALERSHIP RIGHT AWAY. THEY CALLED LATER THAT AFTERNOON TO TELL ME IT WAS THE ALTERNATOR WAS BAD AND CAUSING A SHORT. SINCE THE CAR WAS PAST 36,000 MILES IT'S NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY! IT COST ME ABOUT $800 TO REPLACE THE ALTERNATOR. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT PROBLEM WAS WITH THE ALTERNATOR, BUT I JUST HAD IT AT THE DEALERSHIP A MONTH PRIOR FOR AN OIL CHANGE AND THEY "SAID" THE CAR CHECKED OUT FINE. I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS ISSUES WITH THIS...

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 DODGE CHARGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 40 MPH, THE VEHICLE STALLED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO THE CONTACT'S RESIDENCE AND WAS NOT TAKEN TO A DEALER OR MECHANIC FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING OR REPAIRS. THE ADDITIONALLY, THE WIRING HARNESS FOR THE HEADLIGHTS FAILED. THE HEADLIGHT WIRING HARNESS WAS REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 55,000.

I WAS DRIVING GOING ABOUT 40MPH AND MY RADIO AND AIR START GOING ON AND OFF BY IT SELF THEN I START HEARING A WINING NOISE AND ALL THE WARNING LIGHTS CAME ON DASH AND CAR SHUT DOWN I TRIED TO START IT AND NOTHING INFO SAID KEY NOT DETECTED I CHANGED BATTERY IN REMOTE AND GOT A JUMP AN HOUR LATER SOME THING WHAT CAUSES THIS PROBLEM. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2011 DODGE CHARGER. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING 15 MPH THE RPMS STARTED TO REV UP AND DOWN. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE TECHNICIAN WAS UNABLE TO IDENTIFY THE FAILURE. THE CONTACT TOOK THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALER SEVERAL TIMES REGARDING THE ENGINE BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO REMEDY THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 13,800.

UNDER PASSING CONDITIONS WITH HARD AND FAST ACCELERATION THE CAR DOES NOT MOVE AND IT FEELS LIKE IT IS DEAD THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS AND ON MANY OCCASIONS I COULD HAVE BEEN HIT. THIS IS REALLY A BAD SITUATION. I HAVE TAKEN IT IN AND THEY DO NOT BELIEVE ME THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE. THIS HAPPENS ANYTIME THAT THERE IS A STEADY OR CRUISING AND A NEED ARISES FOR PASSING OR GETTING OUT OF TROUBLE. THE GAS PEDAL WOULD BE DEPRESSED QUICKLY AND HARD BUT NOTHING HAPPENS. THE CAR SEEMS LIKE IT DIES AND THEN IT COMES BACK AND STARTS ACCELERATING. THIS TAKES ABOUT A SECOND OR TWO. OTHER TIMES IT GROWLS AND IT DOES NOT MOVE. I HAVE TALKED TO DODGE AND THEY CANNOT DUPLICATE IT AND FRANKLY THEY THINK THAT I AM TELLING THEM SOMETHING THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE. IN OTHER WORDS THEY DO NOT BELIEVE ME. *TR