2016 GMC YUKON Exterior Lighting Problems

The LED left turn signal and blind spot detection ( safety feature) on the left outside rear view mirror suddenly stopped working. The is a TSB for warranty for 2016-2018 GM YUKON (#10-08-64-002D) and it states that the bulletin has been revised to include 2016-2018 year models for this defect. I am starting this claim because I am told by GM that my VIN is not covered under this warranty, yet I am experiencing the same issue stated in the TSB listed above.

Both driver and passenger tail light/ brake light assemblies have failed. They started intermittently going out and then failed all together. There is a VERY common issue with these lights. They have been replaced at an approximate cost of $650.00 per light.

The rear taillights both went out due to a design issue with the LED circuit board - where the connections on the board crack and cause the lights to fail

Passenger taillight goes out. Replaced it twice now and now I have to do it again a 3rd time. They know of this issue but have done nothing to fix it or offer anything to help cover cost

Both rail lights went out at the same time. No reason whatsoever

Left tail light flickers, after reading internet comments learned that tail light board connections are made of very flimsy metal material, they crack with normal vehicle operations. LED lamps are fine but the power connections to the lamps breaks therefore it renders taillights useless. Replacement cost of those lamps are $700-$800 parts alone. On the internet there is some information I’ll attach that pdf

Passage tail, brake light works when it want. One day it work the next day it don’t! I’m scared that I will get pulled by the police or somebody hit me in the back.

TAIL LIGHTS/BRAKE LIGHTS /SIGNAL LIGHTS GO ON AND GO OFF DANGER OF BEING HIT FROM THE REAR DEALER AND INDEPENDENT SERVICE HAS CONFIRMED DEFECT AND SAY IT IS COMMON VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED BE THE POLICE OR INSURANCE THERE WAS NO WARNING LAMPS OR MESSAGES FIRST DISCOVER 2 YEARS AGO WHEN DRIVERS WOULD PULL UP AND SAY THE LIGHTS WERE OUT......WE WOULD STOP AND LOOK THEY WOULD COME BACK ON

The passenger brake light intermittently stops working.

The drivers side rear brake lights stopped working. GM did a warranty extension ( that admits an issue).but ours just expired.. this is an $800 to $1000 repair that owners should NOT have to pay.. GM refuses to cover this expense. This is an absolute SAFTEY ISSUE. Of course, any law enforcement officer will agree as they will write a safety violation ticket (as they should) I understand that owners are responsible for all maintenance of their vehicles, but this issue is a flaw in design. Most owners ( like us) can’t afford to pay this outrageous price for a simple break light replacement. As the entity of government that oversees the manufacture of these vehicles, there MUST be a safety recall!! Honestly, I am disappointed that no safety recall hasn’t been ordered for this issue. This problem is going to result in many many rear end accidents. Please fix...

Driver side, rear lighting fixture not working. All lights for brakes, reverse, do not work. I had to replace the entire light assembly on the Passenger side previously.

The rear lights on my vehicle - including brake lights - intermittently stop working. I was unaware of this issue until I had someone follow me to my destination to make me aware. This is extremely dangerous that could lead to a wreck with the potential of bodily injury. GMC has issued a service bulletin (admitting to using faulty parts) related to this problem, however, they have limited the coverage to mileage and year. GMC should be required to issue a full recall on any vehicle impacted by this serious safety concern.

Passenger side brake light not working. Bulb replacement not available to purchase and you have to take to dealership for $800 plus repair. 72k miles on vehicle.

GMC has a bulletin “recall” that stated that the tail lights of their vehicles were not illuminating on vehicles. In 2019 we took our vehicle in to have the defect covered because our passenger tail light stopped working. We are now having the same issue with our driver light but they are stating that the recall only covered one light with knowledge that both lights are defective. Only one light was replaced. They also had a recall on a defective air compressor that we paid $580 for but because of mileage it was not covered. I spoke with a rep by the name of Angellica in the complaint department that confirmed that the letters regarding the air compressors were sent in November of 2017 and I did not receive that notice during that time. I purchased the vehicle in April of 2017. If any part of a vehicle is defective,...

REAR TAIL LIGHTS INOPERABLE AND BRAKE LIGHTS NOT OPERATING. WHEN I ASKED DEALER ABOUT PROBLEM THEY SAID GM HAD EXTENDED THE WARRANTY ON THE TAIL LIGHT ASSEMBLIES SINCE THEY NEW THERE WAS A PROBLEM. I WAS NEVER NOTIFIED OF THEM EXTENDING THE WARRANTY. VEHICLE DOES NOT HAVE ANY REAR LIGHTS WORKING WHICH IS EXTREME SAFETY HAZARD.

I SEE ALMOST 200 COMPLAINTS AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE? NOT SURE THE POINT OF THIS WEBSITE, BUT, I'M GOING TO PUT MY 2 CENTS IN. MY 2016 YUKON DENALI PASSANGER BRAKE LIGHT HAS GONE OUT, LIKE MANY, MANY OF OTHER PEOPLE. WHY ISN'T THIS A RECALL? OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A MANUFACTURING ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. AFTER MANY VIDEOS I HAVE WATCHED I SEE THAT THE CIRCIT BOARD COMES APART AND CAN'T BE REPAIRED BUT ONLY REPLACED, AT A EXTREMLY HIGH PRICE. I'VE ALSO SEEN MANY TAIL LIGHT ON THESE YUKONS WORK OFF AND ON, SO, RANDOMLY THEY CAN NOT WORK AT ANY TIME AND POSSIBLY GET YOU REAR ENDED. HOW DO I FILE A CIVIL ACTION COMPLAINT TO HAVE GMC ADDRESS THIS COMPLAINT AND RESOLVE THIS ISSUE? PLEASE ADVISE.

BRAKE LIGHTS CUTS ON AND OFF WHEN DRIVING AND THIRD BRAKE LIGHT IS OFF ON MY 2016 VEHICLE ALSO WHEN STEP ON BRAKES PEDAL SOMETIMES GOES TO FLOOR VEHICLE HARD TO STOP A FOR SURE DANGEROUS SITUATION

THE REAR LIGHTS KEEP GOING OUT, I WAS TOLD BY THE DEALERSHIP THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PAY TO REPLACE THEM BECAUSE MY VEHICLE MILEAGE IS OUTSIDE OF THE EXTENDED WARRANTY. THIS IS A COMMON ISSUE AMONG THE 2016 GMC YUKON'S AND I DO NOT THINK IT IS FAIR THAT I HAVE TO COVER THE REPAIR.

I HAVE ALREADY HAD TO REPLACE RIGHT BRAKE LIGHT DUE TO GOING OUT AND NOW THE LEFT ONE HAS WENT OUT. THESE ARE VERY EXPENSIVE LIGHTS. THEY ARE FAULTY AND NEED TO BE RECALLED.

THE REAR TAIL LAMPS SPORADICALLY WOULD LIGHT UP WITH DRIVING LIGHTS FOR AWHILE, BUT COULD NEVER GET FAILURE TO SHOW UP FOR DEALER DIAGNOSIS. FINALLY LIGHTS WENT OUT COMPLETELY EXCEPT FOR SIDE MARKER. WHEN THE BRAKE LIGHTS WOULD NOT WORK, CAR WAS NOT DRIVABLE. DEALER WAS THEN ABLE TO DIAGNOSIS AND FOUND SHORT IN LED LIGHT CIRCUIT BOARD ASSEMBLIES HAS GONE BAD AND BOTH LIGHTS WOULD NEED REPLACEMENT. LAMPS WERE REPLACED UNDER 80/20 WARRANTY OFFER. TOTAL OUT OF POCKET COST TO ME/CONSUMER: $492.75. I FEEL THIS IS SAFETY ISSUE ON NEWER MODEL VEHICLE AND LIGHTS SERVICE LIFE SHOULD BE MUCH LONGER THAN 4 YEARS. ESPECIALLY SINCE CAR WAS NOT DRIVABLE FOR 4 WEEKS BECAUSE OF CONCERN WITH NO BRAKE LIGHTS, NO REAR LIGHTS AT DARK AND CHANCE OF BEING STOPPED FOR A TRAFFIC INFRACTION.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 GMC YUKON. THE CONTACT RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE MANUFACTURER WHICH SUGGESTED THAT THE VEHICLE NEEDED TO BE DIAGNOSED IN REGARDS TO THE REAR BRAKE LIGHTS OPERATION. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO COVERT BUICK GMC (11750 RESEARCH BLVD, STE D, AUSTIN, TX 78759, (512) 371-6075) TO BE DIAGNOSED. THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THERE WAS NO FAILURES OR ISSUES FOUND WITH THE REAR BRAKE LIGHTS. THE DEALER DISREGARDED THE LETTER AFTER INSPECTING THE VEHICLE. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE ISSUE RECURRED AFTER THE VEHICLE WAS RETURNED TO HER CUSTODY. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC AND THE FORMER DIAGNOSIS WAS CONFIRMED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE SAME DEALER DECLINED THE PURCHASE OF THE PART NEEDED TO FIX THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 77,655.

THE LED BRAKE LIGHT STOPPED WORKING DUE TO FAULTY CIRCUIT.

RIGHT REAR LED TAILLIGHT IS INTERMITTENTLY NOT WORKING. NOT SURE WHY IT WORKS AT TIMES, AND NOT AT OTHER TIMES, BUT WHEN THE TAILLIGHT IS NOT WORKING NEITHER IS THAT BRAKE LIGHT. THIS STARTED ABOUT AUGUST 1, 2020.

FAULTY TAIL LIGHTS. TAIL LIGHT DOES NOT CONSISTENTLY STAY LIT. THIS FAULTY LIGHT IS GOING TO CAUSE AN ACCIDENT

DRIVER SIDE TAIL LIGHT WENT OUT, WHEN YOU PULL THE LIGHT OUT IT STARTS TO WORK, REPLACE THE LIGHT BACK INTO THE CAR AND IT DIES AGAIN. THIS SEEM TO BE A ISSUES WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. ITS VERY COSTLY TO HAVE TO KEEP REPLACING LED TAIL LIGHTS! *TR

TAILLIGHT ON DRIVERS SIDE GOES OUT. IT'S BEEN AN INTERMITTENT ISSUE AS IT COMES ON AND GOES OUT. *TR

MY PASSENGER SIDE TAILLIGHT WORKS SOMETIMES, AND OTHER TIMES IT DOES NOT. I TOOK IT IN TO BE CHECKED OUT TO FIND OUT A REPLACEMENT IS 800.00 AS THE TAILLIGHT NEEDS TO COMPLETELY BE REPLACED NOT JUST A BULB. I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL VEHICLES LIKE MINE WITH THE SAME ISSUE AND HAVE ALSO READ MANY OTHERS EXPERIENCING THE SAME ISSUES. THIS HAS ALSO BEEN STATED AT DEALERSHIP THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM, BUT NO RECALL. HOW CAN THIS NOT BE A RECALL ISSUE. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND NEEDS TO BE FIXED BY GM. *TR

MY LEFT DRIVER'S SIDE BRAKE LIGHT WOULD WORK AND THEN NOT WORK AND I HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE TELLING ME MY LEFT BRAKE LIGHT WAS OUT. THEN OTHER DAYS I WAS TOLD IT WAS WORKING AGAIN. NOW IT IS NOT WORKING AT ALL. *TR

REAR PASSENGER SIDE RED LED LIGHT DOESN'T WORK. HAVE TO REPLACE THE WHOLE LIGHT ASSEMBLY WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY. *TR

BOTH REAR TAIL LIGHTS ARE OUT. THE REPLACEMENT FOR THESE ARE OVER 800.00 AND GM HAS KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS. PLEASE HELP, AS I CANNOT GET MY CAR INSPECTED WITH THE LIGHTS BEING OUT. *TR

DEFECTIVE LED TAIL LIGHTS DO NOT WORK ALL THE TIME. HUGE SAFETY ISSUE FROM A 50,000$+ SUV. GM WILL NOT COVER REPAIR IF YOU GO OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MILES. MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH THESE YUKON'S. TAILLIGHTS ARE ABOUT 1200 EACH TO FIX RIDICULOUS. *TR

PASSENGER SIDE TAIL LIGHT IS OUT AND COULD POTENTIALLY BE HAZARDOUS WHEN OPERATING VEHICLE. THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY CONCERN AND A LAW THAT EVERY MOTOR VEHICLE SHALL BE EQUIPPED WITH AT LEAST TWO WORKING TAIL LAMPS. GM HAS MANUFACTURED INADEQUATE AND FAULTY PARTS THAT ONE DO NOT COMPLY WITH THE LAW THAT VEHICLES SHOULD BE EQUIPPED WITH AT LEAST 2 WORKING TAIL LAMP AND COULD CAUSE SERIOUS HARM TO THE CUSTOMERS WHOSE VEHICLES ARE EQUIPPED WITH THE DEFECTIVE PARTS. MANY CUSTOMERS HAVE REPORTED CONCERN BUT GM HAS FAILED TO FIND RESOLUTION FOR THE SAFETY OF THEIR CUSTOMERS. THE PRODUCT HAS NOT BEEN RECALLED AND WILL ONLY BE REPLACED BY GM UNDER SPECIAL COVERAGE WHICH HAS EXPIRED IN MOST 2015-2016 VEHICLES. DEFECTIVE PARTS NEED TO BE RE-CALLED FOR THE 2015-2016 YUKON VEHICLES AND REPLACED BY PRODUCTS THAT ARE SAFER AND NON HAZARDOUS TO CUSTOMERS BEFORE SOMEONE IS SERIOUSLY INJURED.

BOTH OF MY LED TAIL LAMP ASSEMBLIES HAVE FAILED OVER THE PAS YEAR. GMC HAS REPLACED THAT OEM WITH NEW PARTS AND HAS MD THE OLD PARTS. GENERALLY, IF A BREAK LIGHT FAILS YOU CAN REPLACE THE BULB FOR AROUND $5 BUT WHEN THESE ASSEMBLIES FAIL IT COSTS THE OWNER AROUND $700 TO REPLACE. DRIVING AROUND WITHOUT BRAKE LIGHTS IS A TRAFFIC VIOLATION. A CAR CAN NOT PASS SAFETY INSPECTION WITHOUT BRAKE LIGHTS SO THE OWNER IS FORCED TO PAY THE MONEY FOR THE REPLACEMENT PART FROM WHICH GMC PROFITS.. WHY IS THIS NOT A SAFETY RECALL? GMC KNOWS IT IS A MANUFACTURING DEFECT THAT CAN POSSIBLY CAUSE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT AS A RESULT.WHAT IS THE NHTSA STAND ON THIS?

PASSENGER TAILLIGHT, RUNNING LIGHT/BRAKE LIGHT LED STRIP NOT WORKING

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 GMC YUKON. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE REAR TAILLAMPS FAILED WITHOUT WARNING. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHERE ONE SET OF TAILLAMP AND BRAKE LIGHT BULBS WERE REPLACED. THE CONTACT ALSO STATED THAT THE SECOND SET WAS ALSO REPLACED WITHIN TWO WEEKS. THE CONTACT CALLED WIESNER BUICK GMC LOCATED AT (1645 INTERSTATE 45 N, CONROE, TX 77304) AND NOTIFIED THE DEALER OF THE FAILURE. THE DEALER INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT THEY WERE AWARE OF SIMILAR FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT TAKEN TO THE DEALER. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 75,000.

THE BRAKE LIGHT IS OUT. ALL OTHER LIGHTS ARE WORKING, BUT THE BRAKE LIGHT. IT JUST STOPPED WORKING. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS IS A NORMAL THING FOR THE GMC. I CAN NOT JUST CHANGE A BULB, THEY SAID I HAD TO REPLACE THE ENTIRE LIGHT KIT FOR A $850.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2016 GMC YUKON. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 35 MPH, THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED BY A POLICE OFFICER THAT THE PASSENGER'S SIDE REAR TAILLAMP WAS INOPERABLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO EDWARDS MOTORS LOCATED AT (1825 VETERANS PKWY S, MOULTRIE, GA 31788), WHERE IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE PASSENGER'S SIDE REAR TAILLAMP ASSEMBLY NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 73,200.

BRAKE LIGHT TAILLIGHTS INTERMITTENT TURNS ON AND OFF

BOTH HEAD LAMPS HAVE MOISTURE AND IT IS HARD TO SEE THE ROAD. I HAVE EXTENDED WARRANTY AND IT WILL NOT COVER LENSES. NO WARRANTY WILL. EVENTUALLY THE MOISTURE WILL HARD THE LED AND HID COMPONENTS AND THEY WILL NOT WORK AT ALL CAUSING A HAZARD TO MY FAMILY AND OTHERS. MY CAR HAS 37000 MILES ON IT AND IS GARAGE KEPT. THESE LAMPS ARE OVER $2000.00 TO REPLACE.

BRAKE LIGHTS STOPPED WORKING ALMOST WAS PLOWED INTO BY 18 WHEELER ON I-75. DRIVER WAVED US OVER AND INFORMED US THAT HE DID NOT SEE US TILL RIGHT ON TOP OF US. PROBLEM APPEARS TO BE SYSTEMIC ENOUGH THAT THE GMC SERVICE DEPARTMENT TOLD US THAT IT WAS COMMON ENOUGH THAT THEY KEPT THE BRAKE LIGHTS IN STOCK. ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE NUMEROUS THREADS ABOUT THIS ISSUE ON THE INTERNET AND EVEN UTUBE VIDEOS ON WHERE TO REMOVE MATERIAL TO ACCESS THE OFFENDING CIRCUIT BOARD TO REPAIR THE KNOWN FAULTY CIRCUIT. THE FAILURE OF THESE BRAKE LIGHTS COULD HAVE COST MY FAMILY AND ME OUR LIVES. THE DEALERSHIP WANTED TO CHARGE 1600$ TO REPLACE THE BRAKE LIGHTS. I REITERATE THE BRAKE LIGHT FAILURE IS COMMON ENOUGH THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS THREADS ON THE INTERNET TO DISCUSS THE KNOWN WEAKNESS OF THE CIRCUIT BOARD

BRAKE AND TAILLIGHT ARE GOING ON AND OFF INTERMITTENTLY. I CAN HIT THE SIDE OF THE TAILLIGHT AND IT WILL BLINK ON AND OFF SOMETIMES. LOOKED UP ONLINE AND FOUND IT IS A WELL KNOWN ISSUE THAT GMC WILL NOT FIX. THIS IS A SAFETY HAZARD.

THIS CAN BE RESEARCHED BY HUNDREDS OF VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE. POOR DESIGN CAUSES THE METAL TO BREAK INSIDE THE LED REAR TAIL LIGHTS WHICH MAKES THEM INOPERABLE. THESE ARE UNSAFE WHEN THESE GO OUT AND IT IS VERY COMMON. GENERAL MOTORS DOES WARRANTY THEIR LIGHTS NOR IS THERE A RECALL.THIS IS A COSTLY REPAIR AND A SAFETY ISSUE

BRAKE LIGHT ON VEHICLE WORKS INTERMITTENTLY AND IS NO LONGER SAFE. THIS IS A PROBLEM GMC IS WELL AWARE OF AND NO SOLUTION IN SIGHT. CHEAP METAL BOARD BRAKES INSIDE THE LENS AND LEAVES YOU WITH NO BRAKE LIGHT. I DO NOT WANT MY FAMILY TO BE REAR ENDED BECAUSE OF THIS PROFESSIONAL GRADE? BRAKE LIGHT FAILURE, AT ANY TIME ON ROAD.THIS IS A 2016 GMC YUKON WITH 22710 MILES AS I WRITE. BRAKE LIGHT HAS FAILED WHILE MOVING ON THE CITY STREETS. THIS FAILURE IS CURRENTLY ON THE PASSENGER SIDE BRAKE LIGHT. TRYING TO MAKE APPOINTMENT FOR REPAIR OF THIS PROFESSIONAL GRADE BRAKE LIGHT? BEFORE THE OTHER ONE BRAKES AND PUT MY FAMILY AT RISK OF A ACCIDENT.

REAR LED TAILLIGHT WENT OUT OUR ONLY 3 YEAR OLD 2016 GMC DENALI. THIS EFFECTS THE STOP, TAIL, AND TURN LIGHTS. THESE LED LIGHTS ARE NOT REPAIRABLE AND THE WHOLE ASSEMBLY HAS TO BE REPLACED. GM CHARGES AN ASTRONOMICAL PRICE OF AROUND $700 FOR EACH SIDE. IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND ANY USED ONES AND ACCORDING TO PART DEALERS GM HAS A 'BOUNTY' ON ANY USED ONES TO TURN BACK IN. OBVIOUSLY GM IS AWARE OF THIS PROBLEM AND NEEDS TO ADDRESS IT AS NOT ONLY AS GOOD CUSTOMER RELATIONS BUT IT'S REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE AS WELL.

MY TAIL LIGHT IS OUT ONLY ON THE BRAKE PART THE DEALERS SAID I HAVE TO REPLACE THE HOLE LIGHT IVE HAD MY CAR NO MORE THAN 2 YEARS RUNNING WELL JUST THE LIGHT PROBLEM THE DEALER SAID IT HAPPENS ALOT BUT IT WAS NOT UNDER WARRANTY THEY WANT TO CHARGE 600 DLLS I THINK THEY SHOULD FIX THEIR ISSUE AN NOT HAVE PEOPLE SPENDING THIS MUCH FOR SOMETHING THEY KNOW THEY SHOULD FIX

DRIVER SIDE REAR LED BRAKE LIGHT NO LONGER WORKS.

2016 GMC YUKON TAIL LIGHT NOT WORKING. STARTED NOT WORKING FOR A DAY OR TWO AND THEN WORKED AGAIN AND THEN QUIT COMPLETELY.

BRAKE LIGHTS ARE SHORTING OUT CAUSING THEM TO WORK INTERMITTENTLY. CIRCUIT IS BROKEN INSIDE THE SEALED PORTION OF THE LIGHT PREVENTING REPAIR.

THE TAIL LIGHT STOPPED WORKING AND CANNOT CHANGE OUT THE LED BULBS, IT IS A BREAK SOME WHERE THE THE WIRING.

INTERNAL CIRCUITRY OF PASSENGER TAIL LIGHT CRACKED IN MULTIPLE LOCATIONS CAUSING THE LED'S THAT PROVIDE RUNNING AND STOP FUNCTIONS OF THE LIGHT TO FAIL. THE CAR WAS NOT WRECKED OR DAMAGED IN ANY WAY. APPEARS AS IF METAL FATIGUE FROM BUMPY ROADS PERHAPS CAUSES THE CIRCUITRY TO FAIL AT AT LEAST 2 WEAK POINTS IN THE METAL CIRCUIT. THE PROBLEM WAS POINTED OUT BY A TRAILING POLICEMAN WHILE STOPPED AT A RED LIGHT, HE KINDLY NOTIFIED ME THAT THE ENTIRE LIGHT WAS OUT.